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Old 02-11-2013, 09:36 AM   #1
 
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I currently dose my ten gallon tank with API CO2 Booster and API Leaf Zone. I does everyday. Should be be using an addition fertilizer? I see a lot of people using Flourish on here. Also, am I dosing correctly? Thanks for any help.
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:58 PM   #2
 
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I always prefer to explain the background so the answer will make sense, to not only the questioner but others reading the thread who might be less knowledgeable than either of us. So don't mind what is already known.

Plants need 17 nutrients to photosynthesize (grow), and these come from several sources. The tap water at water changes add minerals, especially the "hard" minerals. Fish foods have all 17 nutrients but depending upon the number of fish, there may or may not be sufficient for the plants. Some nutrients occur naturally from biological processes; nitrogen (as ammonia/ammonium) and CO2 come from the breakdown of organics by bacteria in the substrate and from fish respiration.

We can supply nutrients to ensure none are missing, taking into account the above. However, aquatic plants have a fairly specific proportional need for nutrients, and if this is not matched trouble can result. For example, some nutrients in excess can cause other deficiencies within the plant, even if those deficient nutrients are actually present in the water. So it is important to keep things balanced.

This is where Flourish Comprehensive Supplement (Seachem) and FlorinMulti (Brightwell Aquatics) are so handy. For those with natural (low-tech) method planted tanks, these liquid supplements will provide all that is needed. However, they are intended to be supplements, adding to what is already naturally present, so depending upon the tap water GH and the fish load, some tweaking may be necessary.

To the two products mentioned. First, API LeafZone is, according to API, only iron and potassium. These may be the nutrients most likely missing in some situations, but without testing for everything this is difficult to say, although plant growth is a clue. One way to test this would be to acquire a small bottle of one of the afore-mentioned supplements and use it for 3-4 weeks. Observe the plant response. You will see if things improve. And BTW, both products are dosed in very small quantity, as they are concentrated, so they last a long time.

The GH of your water is critical, as the "hard minerals in the named products is minimal because they assume most have medium hard water. Just something else to be aware of.

As for the API CO2 Booster, I would never use this. This product, and the near-identical Flourish Excel (Seachem) is nothing but glutaraldehyde and water. Glutaraldehyde is a "hazardous substance" according to the Safety Data Sheet [http://cms.marsfishcare.com/files/ms...er_081810.pdf] that is used in hospitals to sterilize utensils, in embalming fluid, in antifreeze, to disinfect the water bilges of ships, etc. It will kill some plants outright, and if overdosed can kill bacteria, plants and fish. It is as that sheet shows, hazardous to humans if inhaled or if splashed on your skin.

There is sufficient CO2 in a balanced aquarium to supply the needs of plants. The light must be balanced, and the other nutrients of course.

Hope this helps.

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Old 02-11-2013, 09:49 PM   #3
 
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Well again, you gave me all the info I needed. I have a bottle of CO2 booster, which I am debating throwing away, or just using it sparingly until it is gone. I will have to get the two you mentioned. I really want my plants to take off in the tank. I appreciate all the help, and will apply the information accordingly.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:41 AM   #4
 
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Well again, you gave me all the info I needed. I have a bottle of CO2 booster, which I am debating throwing away, or just using it sparingly until it is gone. I will have to get the two you mentioned. I really want my plants to take off in the tank. I appreciate all the help, and will apply the information accordingly.
You only need one of the two fertilizers I mentioned, just to be c lear, not both together. Either one will work, they are basically the same thing in terms of what is in them. Both are available online from supply and discount places if the local stores do not carry them, and of course they will be less expensive online.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:54 AM   #5
 
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Well thats good news, I appreciate you clearing that up. I would have bought both of them and wasted more money lol. Thanks
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Old 02-13-2013, 08:34 PM   #6
 
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I just got some Flourish Comprehensive Supplement today and dosed it. Ill do it once a week with my ten gallon. Getting everything in order slowly.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:44 PM   #7
 
How's the plant growth?
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:12 AM   #8
 
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It's going pretty well so far. I got flourish and have been using it with the leaf zone and co2 booster. I have been using the co2 booster very sparingly, I can't bring myself to throw it away lol. I'm not worried about algae because I have a hill stream loach and he needs its. I have some algae but its pretty much the perfect amount for the loach and snails I have. The Amazon sword plants seen to be jumping up. They are starting to poke out of the water. My taxes just came in so I'm going to be putting in a big order of plants and cherry shrimp. My tank is going to be a jungle lol.
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Old 02-21-2013, 10:44 AM   #9
 
Awesome! I recently got a new Light fixture and my plants are growing like crazy. I was starving them before because I had a regular LED light. My new light is (2) 48" T5's... Pretty big change
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:20 PM   #10
 
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Yea once I get a bigger tank, Ill get a good light set. I'm just keeping a low light tank right now with leds. Java moss, amazon swords and the like.
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