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post #11 of 20 Old 06-11-2012, 07:59 PM
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http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-95970/page14/ This all I can do for now, but I'll try to call in the morning.
We're still assuming, but in that thread I noted the RO they use and this might mean you lack sufficient calcium, magnesium and potassium. These are in Flourish Comp and tabs, but not anywhere near sufficient to make up for none in the source water, and these Flourish products are intended for use with "normal" medium hard water. Those of us blessed with soft water (depending how you look at it) might ave to add these hard minerals. But before we get into that, let's see if they will give you some numbers for GH. And a photo of the plants wold help too.

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post #12 of 20 Old 06-11-2012, 08:31 PM Thread Starter
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Here you go

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I trimmed the ludwiga two weeks ago, thinking it would grow. You can't really tell in the pictures, but some of the vals have tears in the leaves.

55 gallon planted tank, starting over!!!( looking crappy, needs a major rescape)

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I don't see much of a problem in the photos. Your original post was that the plants are not doing as well as they should. How long have you had these plants?

And, i still want to know the GH when you get it, as it could be related to slower growth.

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I don't see much of a problem in the photos. Your original post was that the plants are not doing as well as they should. How long have you had these plants?

And, i still want to know the GH when you get it, as it could be related to slower growth.
The Vals and the Cambma I've had for a while. The rest maybe close to a month. Gh is general hardness, right? They say it's 100.

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Your ludwigea just looks like it's not getting enough light- perhaps it was trying to grow towards a window?

How old are the bulbs?

If it comes down to you needing to add Ca Mg and K, you could try dosing Seachem's Equilibrium...

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Your ludwigea just looks like it's not getting enough light- perhaps it was trying to grow towards a window?

How old are the bulbs?
only a few months old.

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The Vals and the Cambma I've had for a while. The rest maybe close to a month. Gh is general hardness, right? They say it's 100.
Presumably that would be mg/l or ppm, since 100 dGH is highly unlikely. So 100ppm equates to 5.5 dGH, which is soft. Vallisneria will struggle in this, I know because I keep my tanks at 5 to 6 dGH and Vallisneria does not do well at all. This might be a bit low for the Ludwigia too, being reddish. Redchigh may have more to offer on this plant.

Increasing the GH a tad [with Equilibrium] might see some slightly faster growth. But before going down that road, you might want to increase the Flourish Comp from once to twice weekly, the second dose about 3 days following the first which should be a day after the water change. You could try this for 2-3 weeks and observe any difference. There is calcium, magnesium and potassium in Flourish Comp and although minimal it may be sufficient when combined with the tap water. Also, do 50% volume water changes; the influx of the hard minerals will help.

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Presumably that would be mg/l or ppm, since 100 dGH is highly unlikely. So 100ppm equates to 5.5 dGH, which is soft. Vallisneria will struggle in this, I know because I keep my tanks at 5 to 6 dGH and Vallisneria does not do well at all. This might be a bit low for the Ludwigia too, being reddish. Redchigh may have more to offer on this plant.

Increasing the GH a tad [with Equilibrium] might see some slightly faster growth. But before going down that road, you might want to increase the Flourish Comp from once to twice weekly, the second dose about 3 days following the first which should be a day after the water change. You could try this for 2-3 weeks and observe any difference. There is calcium, magnesium and potassium in Flourish Comp and although minimal it may be sufficient when combined with the tap water. Also, do 50% volume water changes; the influx of the hard minerals will help.

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Ok, thank you Bryon! I'll try that.

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ok, just to clarify to the equilibrium is a back up plan if the dosing you recommended doesn't work. I should take the vals back for credit and wait and watch the Ludwigia. Right?

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ok, just to clarify to the equilibrium is a back up plan if the dosing you recommended doesn't work. I should take the vals back for credit and wait and watch the Ludwigia. Right?
Yes. Interesting that your store will accept returned plants.

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