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post #1 of 20 Old 05-05-2013, 06:42 AM Thread Starter
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Eco-Complete as cap on dirt in NPT?

Hi, all. I'm working on making an NPT nano tank. I will get some Scott's Miracle-Grow, but I was wondering if I can use Eco-Complete (drained) on top of it as "gravel," essentially, to hold down the dirt. I'd like the color to stay all black rather than put river pebbles on top.
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post #2 of 20 Old 05-05-2013, 10:37 AM
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Can't see why it wouldn't work, as EC is just "gravel" of sorts, though much more expensive. I assume you intend no substrate fish (EC is rough on these).

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Thanks, Byron! No, it's actually just for a betta. Out of curiosity, though, what type of cap would be good for substrate fish? Just sand?
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post #4 of 20 Old 05-05-2013, 10:45 AM
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If you already got the Eco complete you can use it but if you plan to buy it then I would go for a black sand. Something that is cheaper. As for Miracle Grow the Organic Choice Potting Mix is what most ppl use.

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post #5 of 20 Old 05-05-2013, 01:43 PM
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ive heard about nutrients leeching through flourite. not sure about EC
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Thanks, Byron! No, it's actually just for a betta. Out of curiosity, though, what type of cap would be good for substrate fish? Just sand?
Yes, just sand. From what I understand of soil substrates you only need 1/2" of soil. If that is correct (I don't know for sure) then capping with anything won't give you a two tone effect if the bottom trim of the tank is deep enough to cover the dirt layer and only show the cap.

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ifyou want to hide the soil, lay the cap around the perimeter, then add the soil in the center. this will hide the soilfrom being seen through the glass
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ifyou want to hide the soil, lay the cap around the perimeter, then add the soil in the center. this will hide the soilfrom being seen through the glass
Not always. I have a tank now that I did that with and the two layers have blended together in some spots.

The best way to do it is to use eggcrate. You cut it to the lenght and width of the tank. Making several layers to get the depth you want. Then lay the sand over, front, and top of it. In the centre of the tank add the soil and then cap it sand. I had done this method before and the soil/sand stay exactly where you want it.
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Not always. I have a tank now that I did that with and the two layers have blended together in some spots.

The best way to do it is to use eggcrate. You cut it to the lenght and width of the tank. Making several layers to get the depth you want. Then lay the sand over, front, and top of it. In the centre of the tank add the soil and then cap it sand. I had done this method before and the soil/sand stay exactly where you want it.

difficult to plant inside eggcrate?
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difficult to plant inside eggcrate?
You just do along the sides but no it wasn't difficult.

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