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Old 08-15-2011, 04:20 PM   #31
 
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It's a Marineland 12 gallon. Although I agree it does even look bigger than a 12.


I should have measured it when I first filled it. It dwarfs my 15g.


Measurements are weird. 17" in the back long to 20" long in the front (bow front also) x 9.5" wide x 15.5" deep.
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Old 08-15-2011, 04:36 PM   #32
 
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I would suggest 9 neon tetra, then some substrate fish which could be a quintet of one cory species or if 2 species then 3 and 3, and/or a small catfish or two.
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Old 08-15-2011, 04:47 PM   #33
 
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Really? Possibly 8 other fish plus the 9 Neon Tetra? I really didn't think I could put that many in there.


I've been wanting a Spotted Driftwood Cat for my 46 but the lfs hasn't had any in. So I'm pleased I could get a couple of those to put in there. But you're thinking 5 of 1 species or 3/3 of 2 species of Cory also???



Here's a pic of the biggest Blue Ram I have:

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Old 08-15-2011, 08:25 PM   #34
 
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Really? Possibly 8 other fish plus the 9 Neon Tetra? I really didn't think I could put that many in there.


I've been wanting a Spotted Driftwood Cat for my 46 but the lfs hasn't had any in. So I'm pleased I could get a couple of those to put in there. But you're thinking 5 of 1 species or 3/3 of 2 species of Cory also???



Here's a pic of the biggest Blue Ram I have:

Yes. It is a question partly of physical space, partly of water quality. The substrate fish do not need much water volume (the physical space), and the neon is not an active swimmer so physical space can be less than it could for danios. Water quality is governed by bioload, and all these fish have a minimal impact on that; plus live plants and regular weekly partial water changes.

I wouldn't put woodcats in this tank. Woodcats need water movement, neon tetra do not; they are not "compatible" unless in a much larger tank (like my 5-foot 115g) where there can be a current from the filter at one end (for the woodcats) that dissipates down the tank so the neon will be happy at the other end. This is exactly how it works in my 115g with my 3 woodcats in residence in the standing wood next to the filter outflow [they chose this themselves because of the water flow, and all 3 are crammed into the tunnel] and the cardinal tetra remaining at the far end where the water flow is the least.
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Old 08-15-2011, 09:28 PM   #35
 
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Ah ok. Good thing because the LFS are supposed to get some in tomorrow and I was about to pick them up!

I looked while I was at the LFS today to see which Cory's I got: Agassizi Cory Cat (Corydoras agassizi) Agassizi Cory Cat (Corydoras agassizi)

These guys are very active and love the current in my 46. All they do is play in the current. Is there a specific type that is a less active you had in mind? Type of catfish also?





A mystery white fungus started growing on the front cypress knee. It usually has at least 3 snails on it. I pulled it as soon as I saw it. No idea what it is. It's now in a 5 gallon bucket with a 5% bleach solution. I cleaned them really well before putting them in. The other knee has nothing on it. Plus the wood has been completely dried through. (Made for carving, etc.) Had me worried. I did a 30% water change also.
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Old 08-15-2011, 09:31 PM   #36
 
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Looking at the pic I took of the big blue ramshorn above I think maybe you can see the start of it on the wood at the top of the picture. I didn't notice it earlier. It must have blossomed really fast because I sure noticed it tonight. Only 4-5 hours after taking that picture.
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Old 08-16-2011, 09:42 AM   #37
 
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I would think it is some kind of fungus but I also think the bleach solution may help to get rid of it. The tank is looking awsome! I love the cypress knees I wish I had some for my tank.
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Old 08-16-2011, 10:31 AM   #38
 
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Fungus occurs in many species; some is "safe" and some is very toxic. Any natural wood regardless of being wet or dry is a host for fungi of many types. I've no idea what types of fungus might be present in this particular wood. Boiling will not necessarily kill it if it is inside.

On the corys, some species do like a bit of water movement, some don't care. I see Corydoras agasizzii isn't in the profiles yet. BTW, the correct spelling of the species epithet is with two "i". It occurs in the Amazon basin along the Peru/Brazil border in streams and flooded forest. It should do fine with neons, which actually occur in the same region, though perhaps not in the same streams as the cory, not sure on that.

Most fish will swim against a current because they naturally expect food particles to be carried downstream in the current. As long as fish which do not permanently live in currents have a place in the aquarium where they get get out of the current, they'll be fine.

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Old 08-16-2011, 03:12 PM   #39
 
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I would think it is some kind of fungus but I also think the bleach solution may help to get rid of it. The tank is looking awsome! I love the cypress knees I wish I had some for my tank.


Tupelo Gum Wood Company has Tupelo Gum Wood and Cypress Knees in any quantities for sale, loacted in Louisiana


Be warned they are good ol' boys. The number on the page is their home phone so don't be startled when someone just answers "Hello?" It is best to call. I never got a response from my email.

No paypal or anything like that. Have to send them a check or money order. They are a bit backwoods and weird but good people and I got exactly what I wanted.

I do have some extra knees that won't fit in my tank. I'll take a picture and post them up for you.
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Old 08-16-2011, 03:18 PM   #40
 
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Fungus occurs in many species; some is "safe" and some is very toxic. Any natural wood regardless of being wet or dry is a host for fungi of many types. I've no idea what types of fungus might be present in this particular wood. Boiling will not necessarily kill it if it is inside.

On the corys, some species do like a bit of water movement, some don't care. I see Corydoras agasizzii isn't in the profiles yet. BTW, the correct spelling of the species epithet is with two "i". It occurs in the Amazon basin along the Peru/Brazil border in streams and flooded forest. It should do fine with neons, which actually occur in the same region, though perhaps not in the same streams as the cory, not sure on that.

Most fish will swim against a current because they naturally expect food particles to be carried downstream in the current. As long as fish which do not permanently live in currents have a place in the aquarium where they get get out of the current, they'll be fine.

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Should I also boil it along with the bleach soak?

The cories I have are going to stay in the 46. They love the stream so much I would hate to get some of the same to put in the 12 with no current. That's why I was asking for a suggestion on what type are more laid back and chill along the bottom. These cories are very, very active. The bottom left half of the tank is where the current dies out and is fairly still. That's where they rest.
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