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Old 07-15-2013, 08:10 PM   #1
 
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Crypt Craziness

So I've been having some issues with crypts in my 29 community. There is an area where they (and other plants) just won't grow. Normally I would attribute it to light or water movement but there are plenty of plants growing around this area, and its in the center of the tank. Let me start from the beginning.

Maybe 2 months ago I noticed a sudden and severe melt of crypts in that area. The leaves were fine, but the plants fell apart from the stems. One spiralis and one green wendtii melted. After waiting a few weeks to see if they would rebound if I put more root tabs there, I moved a pondertifolia plant there and put another root tab with it. A week or so after I moved it there, the same thing happened despite the fact that just a few inches away another C. pondertifolia plant was thriving.

I'm at a loss here. My boyfriend now calls this zone the "bermuda triangle." I know there is something wrong, but I don't know what. I want plants back in that area of the tank; it looks like a massive hole in my 'scape.

A little more details on the aspects of the tank:
- lighting: single tube 24" T8 6500k full spectrum
- ferts: once weekly flourish comprehensive, root tabs seachem
- fish and plant list found in aquarium profile

Pictures of the "bermuda triangle."





Pardon the fish blurs.

These pictures were taken about a week ago. I have since cleared the massive water sprite from the top.
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:04 PM   #2
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I have a crypt garden at one end of my tank.... Probably about four or five varieties. Early on I tried Seachem root tabs only to have them start to wilt. I immediately removed the tabs and they bounced right back. Some seem to have good results with these, some don't.

Be sure not to bury the rhizome too deep either... if they are fine everywhere else that probably isn't the problem anyway, but worth mentioning.

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Old 07-16-2013, 11:59 AM   #3
 
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GAH! Stories like this make me so nervous! My tank is mostly crypts, and if they ever decide to melt on me I'm gonna seriously cry!!! *grumbles at crypts*

It doesn't sound like you made any changes that would have caused your little 'Bermuda Triangle'. . . unless either the WaterSprite or the stems in that area had a sudden growth spurt that shaded that particular spot more than the rest of the tank? Otherwise, I'm at a loss, too. I wish I could help.

On the brighter side of things, what YOU see as a a "massive hole" in your scape, I see as a little peek-a-boo window to that pretty piece of driftwood behind! If it really bothers you, you could attach a rhizome plant to the driftwood, but I like it just the way it is right now! I'd just leave it alone, honestly. . .

The C.Spiralis just to the side of the 'triangle' (Erik cracks me up) looks happy enough - and if the way mine behave is any indication, you'll probably find a little daughter plants popping up in the not-too-distant future to fill things in perfectly!

The tank looks good girl! Sorry I have nothing more to offer, hopefully someone around here will be able to shed some light (no pun intended) on your cryptic crypts. . .

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Old 07-16-2013, 12:40 PM   #4
 
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Just a thought when the first melt happened did you recently place root tabs in that area? Had there been root tabs placed there before the melt, and if so how long of a time period before placing more tabs in that area? Also what type of root tabs did you use?
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Old 07-16-2013, 05:37 PM   #5
 
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I just used some root tabs in my Crypt area yesterday! Is this bad? By the way I like the look of the OPs tank!
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:32 PM   #6
 
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I just used some root tabs in my Crypt area yesterday! Is this bad? By the way I like the look of the OPs tank!
Nah, I wouldnt' worry - as a general rule, Crypts need either root tabs or a nutrient-rich substrate. I doubt Koi's problem was from the root tabs - you're right, though - her tank is gorgeous! (see! TOLDJA!)

I've also read that crypts can get fussy when they're crowded - they don't like it when their roots bump into others - maybe that particular spot has too many roots beneath the substrate? With Crypts, who knows!!!?
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Old 07-16-2013, 09:41 PM   #7
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I just used some root tabs in my Crypt area yesterday! Is this bad? By the way I like the look of the OPs tank!
Just keep an eye on them and tale the tabs out if they wilt. my problem had to be the tabs and they are doing great without.

Having said that, I don't vacuum so my sand may be more nutrient rich than some as a result.

Everyone's setup is going to be a little different which introduces different tolerances to change.

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Old 07-17-2013, 02:45 AM   #8
 
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Very true, JDM. I DO keep my substrate clean, so while I know there's some mulm that settles below the surface, it's not likely to be as much as in yours - there's a balance in every tank, and in every tank. . . it's unique! Bonus is that with Crypts. . . *shakes head* It could really go either way! *grumbles at melty crypts AGAIN*
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Just a thought when the first melt happened did you recently place root tabs in that area? Had there been root tabs placed there before the melt, and if so how long of a time period before placing more tabs in that area? Also what type of root tabs did you use?
I did place root tabs shortly after I noticed the melt. There were root tabs there prior to the melt. I basically placed a root tab per crypt there. The brand is the Seachem brand. I'm thinking about switching brands to API root tabs and seeing if that helps. I've also had osmocote + recommended to me.

Jes, the issue with the massive hole is that there isn't as much space for the female gourami to hide anymore. And the tank just doesn't look as "full" anymore. I like my lush green paradise.
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Old 07-20-2013, 02:10 PM   #10
 
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Poor little honey!!! No good when it affects the fish, I hope you get The Mystery of the Melting Crypts solved soon! *hugs*
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