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post #21 of 81 Old 02-17-2010, 07:00 PM Thread Starter
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You tanks look so nice with those bulbs though! Idk why they just look sooo dull to me.... Even duller than my old light... but I guess they are stronger?? For the plants??

Anyways it might look better once I add plants? It just looks so dull I'm surprised it's a light for plants...

I keep my room pretty dark so that's fine right? The light bulb is the only source of lights these plants are gonna get...

Oh and angel I think you commented about my frog on my other thread so that's the only reason I'm mentioning him here kinda... :p But I put him in the breeder trap for like 20 minutes with the lights off for him to eat and all the blood worms disappeared. Don't think they can get out of the small holes so I think he's eating and he swims around a lot so I think hes happy. :D

Here's some pics of my filter. The flash makes it look really dirty!!

And a picture of my tank... dunno why I'm including it... I accidentally pushed the take picture button so I aimed it at the tank and got that. XD Pretty clear picture, but man does the flash make it look ugly.
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post #22 of 81 Old 02-17-2010, 07:25 PM
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Try taking photos of the aquarium without flash; they will look better.

Re the light, yes I think it will be fine for the plants. One caution on Angel's latest suggestion for changing it--if you think what you have is not white you certainly will not like the lower kelvin tubes. They have more red and less blue which sounds like the opposite of what you were expecting. What you have is the best natural light for the fish and plants; I have these over my tanks.

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post #23 of 81 Old 02-17-2010, 07:37 PM
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That is also the same exact light I put over my 55g, but I have 2. I think the picture of your tank that you took with the new light looks great. Save the receipt and see if you like it once you plant it. The plants will probably give it a totally different look. I personally love the light.
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post #24 of 81 Old 02-17-2010, 07:53 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys,

I think I'll try the lights for a bit and see if they look better when I get plants, that won't be too soon though. I'm just going to keep the bulbs and the java moss for now until I can afford a sponge filter and some plants. (: I have 8$ atm. aha.
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post #25 of 81 Old 02-17-2010, 09:41 PM Thread Starter
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Welp, I'm going to buy the test kit and the filter. My friend regularly shops at best buy and I have a 50$ gift card so he's gonna buy me an e gift card and ill give him the number to my best buy card. I don't need anything at best buy anytime soon anyways.

Damn I'm such a compulsive person...

Anyways the cascade is for 10 gallons it says the 300 that u said to get. I have tons of fish so I might go for the 400 instead... 600 is way expensive but idk might think about that.

Thanks guys for all the help! :D
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Anyways the cascade is for 10 gallons it says the 300 that u said to get. I have tons of fish so I might go for the 400 instead... 600 is way expensive but idk might think about that.
In a planted tank, filtration is only required to move the water through the pads/sponge to remove suspended particulate matter. The fish load has very little to do with filters because the plants handle the waste and ammonia, not the bacteria in a filter. And you do not want a lot of current for several reasons that are detrimental to the fish and the plants (unless the fish are fast stream catfish or something that need it). IF Natalie recommended the 300 that will do you; she's used this filter. B.

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post #27 of 81 Old 02-17-2010, 10:07 PM Thread Starter
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What if I only have one or two plants in there for now? Can the fish out-produce the plants in ammonia? D= thats what im worried about... I'll probably buy the 300 then... Will it be ok to keep the activated carbon in and stuff still? Hmm, ok. Well that saves 10$. Maybe I can use the other money and buy some plants.
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What if I only have one or two plants in there for now? Can the fish out-produce the plants in ammonia? D= thats what im worried about... I'll probably buy the 300 then... Will it be ok to keep the activated carbon in and stuff still? Hmm, ok. Well that saves 10$. Maybe I can use the other money and buy some plants.
It is amazing how much ammonia a plant will assimilate. But I would get more plants, absolutely. But there are not many fish in this tank, I can only see one in the photo...course, my eyes are old and feeble. Anyway, bacteria (if it is needed because there is more ammonia that the plants can use)colonizes every hard surface under water. There is more bacteria in a normal fish tank thoughtout the tank than ever in a filter. So that is not an issue. Second, more filtration does not mean more fish can live, which is the same in reverse of saying you need more filtration because there are more fish.

You don't want carbon in a filter in a planted tank, but at the beginning it will do no harm for a couple weeks. The carbon will wear out and become ineffective within a few weeks, depending upon the bio-load in the tank. Which leads me to ask why you are considering this filter rather than a simpler sponge type? I may have missed this earlier in the thread, but it is worth asking because simplicity is the better path.

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post #29 of 81 Old 02-17-2010, 10:30 PM Thread Starter
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Hmmm, sponge filters need an air pump, and all the air pumps I have had are extremely noisy. It's in my room and I sleep here so I don't want something rumbling all night. The air pump vibrates and stuff. Maybe the ones I had were just crappy ones.
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post #30 of 81 Old 02-17-2010, 10:38 PM
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A simple power head with a sponge filter attachment work well.
It will look like this
Marineland Penguin Power Head 660 with Sponge - - Shopping.com

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