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post #11 of 19 Old 01-31-2014, 10:05 AM
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Canisters are ALWAYS the better option. They do a much better job and SunSuns aren't too expensive. HOBs are the second best and most popular.
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post #12 of 19 Old 01-31-2014, 10:20 AM Thread Starter
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Canisters are ALWAYS the better option. They do a much better job and SunSuns aren't too expensive. HOBs are the second best and most popular.
Sorry, it's probably a language thing but what sort do you call 'canisters' please. I live in France and have a good LFS but not sure I've ever seen that brand here.

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This is a canister filter -
SunSun HW-402B 4-Stage External Canister Filter w/ 9W UV Sterilizer, 2 | Overstock Biz

It goes under the tank and has tubes that run up to the tank for the intake and return.
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post #14 of 19 Old 01-31-2014, 10:41 AM
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i would just seed the new tanks filter with a bit of the established filter media and a few of the old tanks plants,they will harbor bacterial colonies.tank water does not really contain bacterial colonies at all.bacterial colonies adhere mainly to hard surfaces.this way the old tank will not go into a cycle stall,and the new tank will have a leg up on cycling.you can add a bit of nite-out,safe start or dr.tims one and only nytrifying bacterial supplement if you want the new tank to cycle faster.this way you will not have to move substrate from one tank to the other.make sure when you stock your new tank that you do it slowly.only a few fish every few weeks or so,so your bacterial colonies have time to catch up to the demands.sunsuns are rebranded as either gretch or all pond solutions in europe.

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the advice i gave was with the assumption that you want to have both tanks running,not just the new one.

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Thank you sandybottom. Unfortunately we don't have the room for two large tanks so I'm going to get as wide a tank as I can. We have enjoyed this one so much but a bigger one would be lovely.
I can reuse a load of goodies from the old tank straight away which will be so much easier.

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perhaps I'm too later but my fist question would be what are you gonna do with the one 180g if the new tank will be in the same spot.

You can use the same spot but I had the above question.

On filtration I see you use plants which are hopefully live. You might want to take a look at the techniques in the link in my signature. From what I understand they are similiar to the leiden method.

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maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

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[QUOTE=beaslbob;3832634]perhaps I'm too later but my first question would be what are you gonna do with the one 180g if the new tank will be in the same spot.

You can use the same spot but I had the above question.

On filtration I see you use plants which are hopefully live. You might want to take a look at the techniques in the link in my signature. From what I understand they are similiar to the leiden method.

My old tank will go for sale. Here in France the hobby is huge and we have an excellent on-line saleroom. Aquariums are gone the day after they are advertised. By the way - the tank is 180 litres which is only about 48 US gallons - sorry to confuse you.
Your article on using plants as filters is very interesting but sorry, although the tank is well planted there is also a standard filtration system. I've always wondered though whether it would be possible to use them in the same way I use them in my garden pond.[/FONT]

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perhaps I'm too late but my first question would be what are you gonna do with the one 180g if the new tank will be in the same spot.

You can use the same spot but I had the above question.
On filtration I see you use plants which are hopefully live. You might want to take a look at the techniques in the link in my signature. From what I understand they are similiar to the leiden method.

My old tank will go for sale. Here in France the hobby is huge and we have an excellent on-line saleroom. Aquariums are gone the day after they are advertised. By the way - the tank is 180 litres which is only about 48 US gallons - sorry to confuse you.
Your article on using plants as filters is very interesting but sorry, although the tank is well planted there is also a standard filtration system. I've always wondered though whether it would be possible to use them in the same way I use them in my garden pond.[/font]

Basically I do use the plants similiar to what would happen in a planted pond. Just balance out and stabilize the system with plants.

Glad you corrected my 250g to liter error.

sounds like you should keep the new tank where the old one is.

I am also duely embarrassed by my 'too later'. But at least here i changed to the late.


I guess Lieden tanks are in Holland.

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maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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