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post #1 of 7 Old 12-17-2012, 01:13 PM Thread Starter
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Can these plants go together? Also Cycling questions

So I am going to start cycling my first aquarium soon (50 gallons, freshwater), and I can't decide on which method to use.

I've done some research and know I want to have the following plants in my aquarium before I add my fish:

Brazillian Pennywort
Water Sprite
Dwarf Hygrophilia
Amazon Sword


Will these work together? My goal water parameters at the end of all this are 75-79º F, KH 2-5, pH 5.8-7.0, GH- below 12 (the softer the better, really).

Should I do a plant cycle only? Or a shrimp cycle first? Or a fish flake cycle? Or some combination?

And for however relevant it is, these are my intended fish:

6 Lemon Tetra (these would go in first, to help the cycling)
2 Bleeding Heart Tetra
2 Marble Veil Angelfish
2 Smokey Leopard Veil Angelfish
1 Black Angel
8 Nanus Cory Cats
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post #2 of 7 Old 12-17-2012, 01:36 PM
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I just went through this whole decision last week. The consensus was that if you are planting it, particularly with a lot of plants, you don't need to do the cycle.

The idea is that the ammonia is sucked up by the plants eliminating the need for the bacteria for that purpose.

Here's a link to one of the posts going over the processes involved.

Another less wordy post, same result, no cycle.

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post #3 of 7 Old 12-17-2012, 02:20 PM
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The plants are fine, butthere are a couple issues with the fish you mentioned..

Angels need to be in a "school" unless you have a mated pair. Too small of a group will result in one or two angels being bullied by the "alpha male".

Tetras should be in groups of at least 6, but the more the better. The groups don't neccesarily have to be the same species if they are all similiar enough (eg., neons and cardinals might be similiar enough, or neons and 'false' neons would school)

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post #4 of 7 Old 12-17-2012, 02:44 PM
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Well the OP has 5 angelfish listed so this should be ok. Up the Bleeding Heart tetras to 6. Even with a heavily planted tank remember to add fish slowly, waiting at least a couple weeks between additions and watch your parameters.
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post #5 of 7 Old 12-17-2012, 03:13 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the help, I heard that 5 angels should be enough (and I don't want to put too much of a strain on my tank; I'm already at 60 inches of fish for 50 gallons). But if you think I should reconsider, I guess I'll look at other options (maybe take out some cory cats).

And would you say the Bleeding Heart Tetras and the Lemon Tetras are close enough? I know there's a bit of a size difference, but other than that they seem pretty similar.
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post #6 of 7 Old 12-17-2012, 05:24 PM
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This thread is now duplicating another, here
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...m-work-122751/

but I'm not going to merge them since the initial issue was different. But I would suggest, randomriter, that you not maintain two threads on the same issue as this will get confusing if members can't see everything else that has been posted before posting themselves, plus we don't want to be duplicating our efforts.

Easy solution is to continue the fish discussion in the other thread. Hope that's OK.

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Thanks for the suggestion.
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