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post #1 of 38 Old 09-28-2010, 12:16 AM Thread Starter
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Calling all plant folks...help plant my tank

Hey guys, I've been mulling over the plant sites, posts here and I still dont know how to plant my tank. Im not really looking for much of a theme of sorts, just a few plants that might look good. Here are a few things that I had in mind, but dont know what plants to put in these spots. Any ideas on what and how many would be greatly appreciated.

1. I would like a tall plant filling the rear corners - dont know what to do here
2. I want something to grow on the driftwood, likely Java Fern or some type of moss maybe
3. Something to float around. Thinking Pennywort here or Frogbit
4. Some sort of short growing plant to fill in some of the areas in front of driftwood and maybe let it creep into the areas toward the front of the tank. Thinking Hairgrass here.
5. Something around/between rock formations and driftwood - Corkscrew Vallisneria or some type of sword


Here is the tank as it sits. Any suggestions? Ph is 7.6, GH is 9. Lighting is currently one 4 foot Ultra Sun Super Daylight 6500k light.

There are currently 8 Black Skirt Tetra and 2 Banded Gourami living in the tank and plan on adding probably some or all of the following: Harley Rasbora, Cherry Barb, BN Pleco, few Platies and Pepper Cory and if it will tolerate it about 3 or so more female Banded Gourami.



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75 Gallon Community Tank
Fluval 405 Filter
Natural Colored Gravel
2 pc Driftwood 3 Large Rocks
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4' 65ooK Ultra Sun Super Daylight

Fishies: 5 Black Skirt Tetra, 4 Bronze Cory, 6 Harley Rasbora, 6 Bloodfin Tetra, 8 Zebra Danio, 6 Cherry Barbs
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post #2 of 38 Old 09-28-2010, 12:46 AM
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For the "floating around" plant, you might consider water sprite, ceratopteris cornuta. I've got it and like it.
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post #3 of 38 Old 09-28-2010, 06:31 AM
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You'll definitely need more light. Try getting light fixture with two bulbs. As for plants, Vallisneria would be great for the corners. It grows quickly and gets very tall.

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post #4 of 38 Old 09-28-2010, 10:01 AM
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I would not add the barbs, they are often agressive.

Many of your fish are also quite active- they might irritate the gourami.

I like the substrate color and rocks (substrate looks on the large side... Might not be too big though)... perhaps replace the background with something a darker color?

1. I would like a tall plant filling the rear corners - dont know what to do here
Possibly pennywort? Plant it in the corners and let it grow up and over the top? Hygrophila are pretty easy to grow as well, and very bushy. Difformis tolerates a bit lower light, but corymbrosa is easy too.

2. I want something to grow on the driftwood, likely Java Fern or some type of moss maybe
sounds good. Go with java moss and/or java fern. Anubias would also work. All of them aren't picky about lighting.
3. Something to float around. Thinking Pennywort here or Frogbit
sounds like a plan.
4. Some sort of short growing plant to fill in some of the areas in front of driftwood and maybe let it creep into the areas toward the front of the tank. Thinking Hairgrass here.
Good choice.
5. Something around/between rock formations and driftwood - Corkscrew Vallisneria or some type of sword
Corkscrew vall gets pretty tall, and doesn't take to being trimmed very well... It does best along the back or sides. A relatively small sword would do wonders- perhaps 'red melon' or 'Echinodorus Vesuvius'?

I'd also like to suggest ludwigea repens... It's easy to grow, and tends to root very fast.

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post #5 of 38 Old 09-28-2010, 04:12 PM
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I wouldn't add more light, one full-length tube is sufficient. With your parameters and light, you shouldn't have issues with the plants you mention, with the possible exception of Hairgrass. Many report this plant needs bright light, some say no; as I've never bothered with it, I just report what I've read. Sometimes aquarium plants are like garden plants, we try this and that and some are fine, others clearly are not in our environment. Not all aquarium plants will grow together, for various reasons; for instance, Vallisneria and Sagittaria frequently will not grow in the same tank, one will be fine the other not.

I am not a stem plant person; their fast growth requiring regular pruning and trimming--by pulling them up, cutting off the tops and replanting the tops every week--is not my cup of tea, as I prefer plants that basically stay as planted. In non-stem plants, for rear corners, the larger swords work well.

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post #6 of 38 Old 09-28-2010, 04:49 PM
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I used to have true hairgrass in a 15 gallon tank with two T5HO bulbs and Seachem Flourish substrate. It grew very quickly. Now I have it in a 10 gallon tank lit by a desk lamp and heavily shaded by frogbit, and it still survives, but the growth is very slow.

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post #7 of 38 Old 09-28-2010, 08:44 PM
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A good plant I like and have floating is Pennywort it looks nice. I think the rest of the plants you have in mind will be fine.

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post #8 of 38 Old 09-28-2010, 09:20 PM
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I also love the pennywort!
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post #9 of 38 Old 09-29-2010, 11:53 AM Thread Starter
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I took some of your guys suggestions and sketched up this little drawing. Let me know what you think and if something needs to be changed or moved. I dont want to have a ton of plants in there, but it looks like thats what I will end with to me. I cant really judge how big they will get just yet. That being said, I will probably make this a project where I add a few at a time until I get it where I want it. Let me know how you think this will look once complete or any other thoughts on selection or location.

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75 Gallon Community Tank
Fluval 405 Filter
Natural Colored Gravel
2 pc Driftwood 3 Large Rocks
Lots of plants
4' 65ooK Ultra Sun Super Daylight

Fishies: 5 Black Skirt Tetra, 4 Bronze Cory, 6 Harley Rasbora, 6 Bloodfin Tetra, 8 Zebra Danio, 6 Cherry Barbs

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post #10 of 38 Old 09-29-2010, 12:27 PM
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Wow that looks like a great lay out can't wait to see pictures of it.

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55 gallon, 44 gallon, one 20 gallon tank, three 10 gallon tanks, and a 2.5 gallon all with real plants.

I have MTS and there is no cure.

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