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post #1 of 8 Old 08-02-2011, 08:37 PM Thread Starter
Is C02 required for my set up?

Hello Everyone, Thanks to Byron I've started two planted tanks. I have a maintenance question regarding C02. Listed below is the required "sticky" information. I've read all four articles. I think I should be okay with my plants, but I'm a pure novice and I'm sure I'm missing something.

My tanks will be divided and only house 2 bettas. Therefore my Aqueon Filters are baffled, using filter floss at the water outtakes. Therefore the water disturbance at the water's surface is non-existent. I've also placed filter floss inside the intake tubes to prevent the suction from damaging the bettas fins. Currently I have a carbon filter, but I'm willing to remove it if necessary for the plants.

I want to know if these plants will require injected C02, or if I should use a C02 booster (I didn't know such a thing exsisted until I saw a bottle by API at the LFS), or if my set up will be okay. I want my plants and fish to thrive, so I'm turning to you. Eventually I want to plant my 25 gal, but I need to get it right! Thanks in advance.

Tank size
10 gal rectangle - 12-3/4"L x 20-1/4"W x 10"H

2. Watts and type of lighting
15 watt full spectrum flourescent lamp

3. Number and types of plants
9 stems of brazilian pennywort (I just float them), 1 medium anubias, 1 petite anubias, 3 stems of wisteria, 3 stems of water sprite (all of these are lightly planted into the gravel and appear to be doing well)

4. Substrate type
Standard small gravel - top fin

5. Age of tank
One week

6. CO2 injection
None

7. Water Parameters
a. GH - Unknown
b. KH - unknown
c. pH - 8.0
d. Ammonia - .50ppm conditioned w/Prime
e. Nitrite - 0
f. Nitrate - 0
g. When test was performed - morning and evening since I set up the plants last week.

8. Detailed description of plant problems

None

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BETTAS Chewy, Tiny & Roger

25 GAL COMMUNITY TANK
3 Feather Fin Rainbow
4 Pygmy Cory's
5 Zebra Loach
2 Neon Tetra's

30 GAL GOLDFISH TANK (under construction)
1 Black Moor
1 Calico Ryunkin
1 Orange Fantail

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post #2 of 8 Old 08-02-2011, 09:44 PM
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I don't see any reason why you would need Co2 for the plants your growing. Just make sure you give them the nutrients and lighting they need. With that said I would remove the carbon pad from the filter as it will take up the nutrients the plants will use. I would also add some fertilizer. There are several different kinds out there. Flourish comprehensive is a liquid fertilizer that I use. It works good. Just add once a week. I am not sure about the lighting you are using should be ok but someone will surely let you know that.
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post #3 of 8 Old 08-02-2011, 10:37 PM Thread Starter
Thanks Bordomb - I'll take out my carbon filters tonight. I purchased the same Floursih Liquid Fertilizer you use, so I think I'm doing okay at this point. I appreciate you taking the time to respond.

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BETTAS Chewy, Tiny & Roger

25 GAL COMMUNITY TANK
3 Feather Fin Rainbow
4 Pygmy Cory's
5 Zebra Loach
2 Neon Tetra's

30 GAL GOLDFISH TANK (under construction)
1 Black Moor
1 Calico Ryunkin
1 Orange Fantail

THE ONE WHO STARTED IT ALL
Flower (Comet Goldfish) RIP
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post #4 of 8 Old 08-03-2011, 01:52 AM
with a small tank and a filter that doesn't disturb the water surface i would say you wont need to inject co2.you might want to take extra care with the wisteria and water sprite they can melt and dirty the tank and are more sensitive imo.

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post #5 of 8 Old 08-03-2011, 10:09 AM
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Not sure what makes Hygrophila Difformis and Water Sprite melt, but they do fine in my tanks.

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post #6 of 8 Old 08-03-2011, 10:14 AM
you have got to give us your tank water recipe

5x2x2 aro,highfin bat,fei feng,ST,albino tinfoil,c.perch
4x1.5x1.5 planted tetras,harlequins,
otto,WMM,2 types of celebes rainbows,rcs,amano, bamboo,red ramhorns,MTS
3.5x2.5x2 flowerhorn,pleco
3x1.5x1.5 russel's lion,blue cleaner,sixline and leopard wrasse,maroon clown pair,green chromis,scorpion,tiger cowrie,turbo,lyretail anthias,jewel,anemone,star polyp,marbled and giant green mushi,zoa
2x1x1 nano sw shrimps
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post #7 of 8 Old 08-03-2011, 10:56 AM
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Flowerslegacy, I agree with prior comments. Would add one more thing, do not touch the substrate when doing water changes. Leave the waste organics alone (do not vacuum) as this will break down and provide CO2, more than the fish ever could. I would however get some substrate-rooted plants as they can aid in this. Crypts are good in low light, or pygmy chain sword.

To the issue of Wisteria and Water Sprite, this is probably light related. I have thriving Water Sprite floating, although it can sometimes take a while to adjust to a different tank; subtle changes in hardness, pH and temp can affect it. But once settled, it thrives.

Wisteria is a light-loving plant. I gave up on it, I simply do not have sufficient light. My Hygrophila corymbosa is going the same route, for the same reason. I stay with plants that do well in my conditions.

Byron.

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post #8 of 8 Old 08-03-2011, 12:00 PM Thread Starter
First, I just have to say THANK YOU again to everyone for helping me out. I'll go by some Chain Sword today, because my local LFS has some in stock. My first planted tank from last week appears to be doing okay so far. I'm getting ready to do a 50% WC and I won't touch the substrate. The only plant that has lost a few leaves is the Pennywort - but only a few. I have it floating. It looks like the ammonium is finally going down and I plan on adding my 2nd betta today. I just planted my 2nd 10gal last night. I'll be adding Flourish today to give them some nutrients. I took the carbon out of both filters. I won't be adding my 2nd betta to the 2nd tank until next week. I want to make sure my new plants are okay first. Again, thank you to everyone. The helpfulness of this forum is just incredible.

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BETTAS Chewy, Tiny & Roger

25 GAL COMMUNITY TANK
3 Feather Fin Rainbow
4 Pygmy Cory's
5 Zebra Loach
2 Neon Tetra's

30 GAL GOLDFISH TANK (under construction)
1 Black Moor
1 Calico Ryunkin
1 Orange Fantail

THE ONE WHO STARTED IT ALL
Flower (Comet Goldfish) RIP
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