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Old 06-28-2012, 07:46 AM   #21
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Ok you know what, you might be right that's it's not original, there's a near identical case in the middle of this page I posted before, talking about a 55 gallon with a broken glass brace:
FAQs on Glass Aquarium Repair, Braces/Cross Supports

The advice given there is that the brace is not proper because it's being fastened to a piece of plastic, rather than being attached properly to the glass - as I mentioned before, silicone joints are best when it's glass being attached to glass. So hmmm maybe this was a poorly executed DIY brace in the first place, but since there IS a brace that was put in, I would suspect highly that there was a reason for it being put there, not just for looks or for another purpose like supporting a lamp or something.
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:44 AM   #22
 
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As soon as it happened I dropped the eater below half, so minimal bowing is occuring. The only inhabitants that are in there anyway at the moment are about 7 guppy fish and 3 pepper cory cats. Thanks again Eug.
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:50 AM   #23
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Can you please answer the following:

1. At present, how much wider is the distance between front and back panes in the middle of the tank, compared with at the sides where they meet the side panes? Surely you've got a tape measure or a yardstick or something to measure with.

2. Are the glass braces siliconed to the front and back glass panes directly (hard to tell from the photos), or are they attached only to the plastic frame?

3. Can you confirm again that you bought this aquarium in a pet or aquarium store, and the glass brace was in place when you first got it?
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:25 PM   #24
 
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1. At present, how much wider is the distance between front and back panes in the middle of the tank, compared with at the sides where they meet the side panes? Surely you've got a tape measure or a yardstick or something to measure with. Left: 13 and 6/16 inches, Middle: 13 and 9/16 inches, Right: 13 and 6/16 inches. That is from the outside of one side of the frame to the outside of the opposite side along the top of the tank.

2. Are the glass braces siliconed to the front and back glass panes directly (hard to tell from the photos), or are they attached only to the plastic frame? Yes the glass brace is siliconed directly to the glass side panes just under the top frame.

3. Can you confirm again that you bought this aquarium in a pet or aquarium store, and the glass brace was in place when you first got it? it was puchased from an aquarium store in Portland Oregan as is. It had not been altered in any way. I do not remember the name of the store, sorry.
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:40 PM   #25
 
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The brace on my planted tank is 10 inches by 18 by 3/8 and I presume that the thickness of my brace is due to my aquarium having its 2 front corners cut off to created a 3 panel front view and made to support the weight that is no longer being handled by right angle corners. The poster said he bought it unaltered and brand new 12 years ago at a pet store and since its name brand All Glass Aquarium the pet store wouldn't have had any reason to add an extra brace.

Using alcohol is to help the new silicon adhere to the glass, if you buy a tube read the directions - Its to clean the micro particles off the glass, unless you go drenching the area then the tiny amount you would use to wipe the area clean wont be enough to harm your fish. Also alcohol evaporates at room temp very quickly so in the 24hrs you let your silicon dry any remnants will be long gone.
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:07 PM   #26
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OK. Then we've established that a) the bracing mechanism is, beyond reasonable doubt, genuine (built by professionals) and b) the professionals deemed it necessary to put in a big glass cross brace. Also as is, with the tank less than half full and a broken brace, there is 3/16 inches of bowing happening, which is above the upper limit of what I'd personally feel comfortable with. I might even consider lowering the water level a few more inches for peace of mind. You really need to get a replacement piece of glass cut ASAP and replace it in the exact same position as the original, making sure to remove all traces of the old silicone before applying any fresh silicone.
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:17 PM   #27
 
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I will dafinatly be getting the brace made and replaced a.s.a.p.! I will go ahead and lower the water a bit farther, I got a back up filter for it that goes to 40 gallons and it can work in as little as 6" of water, though I don't think I will need to bring it that far down. I will show you guys pics after I get it repaired.
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:06 AM   #28
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The only caveat is that we have to bring down the water enough that there's virtually no bowing occuring before siliconing the new brace into place, or we'd have to clamp the outer glass panes from the outside to pull them back into place, which is definitely less ideal and more risky.

As we've established, it's already bowing a significant amount at 3/16 inches, so it's not really feasible to try to put in a brace as-is. The optimal situation from the point of view of the tank's integrity would be where you could move your fish to another tank for a day, allowing you to perform the fix when the glass is fully unloaded and empty of water. Maybe you can leave a very minimal amount of water at the bottom to keep the filter running somehow, as long as it's so little water that it doesn't cause measurable bowing.

This of course has the unwanted effect of stressing your fish by moving them about a lot - I don't know if this is too great a risk for the lives of the fish, maybe somebody can pipe in here and offer further ideas.
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:40 AM   #29
 
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I don't mean to bud in, but I have a 35,38, or 40 gallon tank with a broken center brace. It was broken during moving, but when it was set up I never had problems. I took it down to set up my 55, but I want to set it back up. Could I have any future problems?
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:53 AM   #30
 
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If its small enough it shouldn't be an issue, what is height and width?
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