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post #21 of 34 Old 04-30-2013, 12:08 PM
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We have well water. I used the test strips on water that hadn't gone through the softener yet, and both the GH and KH were as high as the test goes. :-/
This poses a problem. If you use the well water, the fish in the aquarium will be affected [they are soft water fish]. If you use the softener water, the plants will weaken (insufficient hard mineral) and the fish may be affected as much as without, depending upon what salts the softener is using.

Any idea on how this softener works?

Aside from that question, the answer to which may tell us something else...mixing well water with "pure" water such as rainwater, distilled or RO water is the best option.

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post #22 of 34 Old 05-01-2013, 04:46 PM Thread Starter
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I got in my water test kit today! In the pre-softened water, my KH is 12, and my GH is 16. I reset my water softener for the proper GH (it was set at 25). This may help, though I may need to adjust the proportion of salt as well. I'm not sure. :-/
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I got in my water test kit today! In the pre-softened water, my KH is 12, and my GH is 16. I reset my water softener for the proper GH (it was set at 25). This may help, though I may need to adjust the proportion of salt as well. I'm not sure. :-/
First, you're posting in two threads... just pick one to follow through with, less work for you and less confusing for us.

I don't know much about how to tinker with softeners... we are on a well but don't use one... we like the hard water, nice flavour.

I think Byron mentioned about the fish needing softer water than this, I'll leave those suggestions alone.

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Sure. I'm happy to use this thread, since I no longer have fish dying. I think it's possible to adjust my softener so that both the fish and the plants will be happy; I simply have to research how to do that. I may end up using part softened and part unsoftened water.
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Yes, i just posted in the other thread, and I agree we can't continue both on the same issue.

As I said there, GH 16 is presumably 16 drops, so that is fairly hard water. But the softener salts are just as bad for soft water fish. But on fish, which species are you interested in?

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Hi. The community currently has an angelfish as its queen, some Green Electric Neon Tetras, some various other real tetras, and two flying fox. I will be replacing some Crossocheilus Siamensis and some various shrimp who didn't make it through the move.
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Hi. The community currently has an angelfish as its queen, some Green Electric Neon Tetras, some various other real tetras, and two flying fox. I will be replacing some Crossocheilus Siamensis and some various shrimp who didn't make it through the move.
I didn't see mention in thisthread of the tank size...before you replace the Crossocheilus Siamensis which is most probably actually Crossocheilus langei, check the profile info; this fish gets to 6 inches, should be in a group of 6, and thus needs at least a 4-foot length tank. The profile also explains the name issue. Click shaded name for the profile. Also, the Flying Fox is a very similar fish but useless for algae, if that was intended. Check its profile too; it is best alone, due to its aggressive nature with conspecifics, and I would expect the similar Siamese AE.

Was the former owner of this tank using similar water to you? I know you are on a well. Should check this before we start suggesting adjusting water.

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Not to jump in, but from the picture in the first post it looks like you also have an Albino Rainbow Shark, along with the Flying Fox(es?). I'd keep an eye on them, there may be an issue of aggression between them.
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post #29 of 34 Old 05-02-2013, 07:10 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you. The tank is a 46-gallon bowfront with an Eheim 2215 external filter.

The guy I bought the tank from is not a native English speaker and only provided the Latin names for the fish. He bought them all at That Fish Place in Lancaster, PA, which has a very extensive collection. I had read that the Angelfish and the Flying Foxes might have aggression issues, but he reported they had all been living together well. I do feel that I need to get some new algae eaters of some kind but am certainly open to advice.
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post #30 of 34 Old 05-02-2013, 07:13 AM Thread Starter
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As a note: I will drive to That Fish Place myself when I decide to add new fish. I have only a PetCo here--no LFS--and do not trust adding their fish to this tank.
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