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post #11 of 23 Old 01-10-2013, 09:23 PM
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Thanks everyone! One more question!

In your experience, which works better with plants? Flourish Excel or Flourish Comprehensive?
Two totally different items. Flourish comp is a fertilizer. Flourish Excel is glutaraldehyde, about a 1.8% solution. It's a chemical carbon supplement, NOT a fertilizer. You want to use Flourish comp.
I make my own Glut solution and it grows plants up to 4x normal, dosed daily in a fish tank. It works well. Honestly though, pressurized CO2 gives much better results (up to 200x increased growth rates(!) - without the dangers of working with Glut. Glutaraldehyde is a pretty nasty respiratory and skin irritant. It's actually an agent used to chemically disinfect equipment.

For more background, plants need nutrients (the flourish comprehensive and root tabs), light, and a carbon source to grow. Excel increases biologically available carbon. Pressurized CO2 also increases the carbon availability. That being said, you do not need to use either one, plants will grow well, just more slowly (normally).

18 species/varieties of fish, 15 species/varieties of plants - The fish are finally ahead of the plants!
*560 gallons (2120 liters) in 5 tanks -> you do the math.

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Two totally different items. Flourish comp is a fertilizer. Flourish Excel is glutaraldehyde, about a 1.8% solution. It's a chemical carbon supplement, NOT a fertilizer. You want to use Flourish comp.
I make my own Glut solution and it grows plants up to 4x normal, dosed daily in a fish tank. It works well. Honestly though, pressurized CO2 gives much better results (up to 200x increased growth rates(!) - without the dangers of working with Glut. Glutaraldehyde is a pretty nasty respiratory and skin irritant. It's actually an agent used to chemically disinfect equipment.

For more background, plants need nutrients (the flourish comprehensive and root tabs), light, and a carbon source to grow. Excel increases biologically available carbon. Pressurized CO2 also increases the carbon availability. That being said, you do not need to use either one, plants will grow well, just more slowly (normally).
Oh ok, got it. Thanks for explaining it and helping out this newbie haha. I'll do some more research on my own.

Thanks again!
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post #13 of 23 Old 01-11-2013, 07:13 AM
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I'd skip the Excel personally. As DKRST said it's a rather nasty chemical ... and while yes it helps some plants grow (it will also kill other plants) it is not something I would use with fish in the tank.
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post #14 of 23 Old 01-11-2013, 01:08 PM
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Agree. And there is plenty of natural CO2 occurring in a fish tank sufficient to balance the light and nutrients.

Flourish Comprehensive is a good complete fertilizer, I use it as do many others here.

You might want to check out my 4-part series stickied at the head of this section entitled "A Basic Approach to the Natural Planted Aquarium" that will put all this in perspective.

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post #15 of 23 Old 01-12-2013, 02:46 PM Thread Starter
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oh ok, thanks everyone!

@Byron, I definitely will!
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post #16 of 23 Old 01-12-2013, 08:35 PM
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I use Seachem tabs under and around my Vals, Crypts and Swords and have been very happy with the obvious favorable results.

Have also heard wonderful feedback on the Rootmedic tabs.

I do believe that Rootmedic and Oscomote Plus are very similiar in terms of ingredients - very, very similiar.

Have fun and be PATIENT!
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post #17 of 23 Old 02-01-2013, 02:22 AM
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I have the same thing about API root tablets and have never used them.
I have also heard alot of good info on Root Medic though have never used them.
I personally use Seachems Root tablets and have had good results in doing so. I have used them with Amazon swords along with Flourish Comprehensive and they grow like crazy.
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post #18 of 23 Old 02-01-2013, 09:55 AM
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I don't use anything and my plants seem do to well.


(my .02)

maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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post #19 of 23 Old 02-02-2013, 02:45 AM
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I use the seachem ones, nothing bad has ever happened from their use and all my plants are growing fine so I can't say I've had a negative experience with them.

They are also the only ones I've seen in stores in my area so, not a lot of options anyways unless I order online. But... why fix what isn't broke? :)
youre lucky cuz no where around here carries any root tabs lol
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post #20 of 23 Old 07-16-2014, 03:46 PM
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I started this spread sheet with a few people 2 years ago and have found it very handy. We use it to keep track of how much of each element is in each product. Hope this helps: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...rive_web#gid=0

If anyone needs editing permissions, please let me know.
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