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post #1 of 49 Old 05-20-2012, 03:29 PM Thread Starter
aquascaping a 12 eclipse

Yesterday I added some live plants along with a pair of amano shrimp to a 12 gallon eclipse tank I am setting up for my GF.

I know the picture isn't great quality but I hope you can get a decent idea of what the tank looks like. the water is still milky from the substrate and unfortunately the shot only shows like 3/4 of the tank. a few stray roots are sticking up out of the gravel. should I trim them? how long do plants take to set up a decent root structure? I know the plants in the foreground are dwarf Sagittarius but can anyone Id the plants in the back. the one on the right is some kind of anubias. I know the tank looks a little sparse but hopefully adding some driftwood will help.

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post #2 of 49 Old 05-20-2012, 04:38 PM Thread Starter
By the way the lighting on the tank is a 13 watts 5000k compact fluorescent bulb. Is this sufficient? I know it is a little low and I want to upgrade but it is a very strange lighting socket. It square and has 4 pins. The light is actually two fluorescent tubes that run parallel to each other and curve to form a U shape.

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I can't see the plants well enough in the photos to suggest possibile species. As for the light, I've no experience with this type of bulb so hopefully one of our members who has will be able to advise. Does it come in a higher wattage?

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Sorry my gf took the picture so it's not great quality. I'll ask her to take a few more. This is the kind of bulb I am talking about.

Opentip.com: 13w- 10,000k Compact Fluor Replacement Bulb 6" For Eclipse 12

Is there something I can use to push the roots down because if I do it by hand I just push more up

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Sorry my gf took the picture so it's not great quality. I'll ask her to take a few more. This is the kind of bulb I am talking about.

Opentip.com: 13w- 10,000k Compact Fluor Replacement Bulb 6" For Eclipse 12

Is there something I can use to push the roots down because if I do it by hand I just push more up
There's no data on its possible intensity there, and without my having used it I can't compare it to anything I have.

I find the easiest way to plant is to make a sort of depression i the substrate, push the clump of roots into it and then fill it in If you go down deep, once it is filled in you can then gently pull the plant up a bit so the crown is not buried. Some people use those tools but I just use my fingers. I find it much more difficult with sand than gravel.

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What do you mean data on intensity? I will have to give that a try Friday when I can get over to her house. Will the plants be alright for now? Also how long does it take for a planted to get rooted when it is transplated?

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There's no data on its possible intensity there, and without my having used it I can't compare it to anything I have.

I find the easiest way to plant is to make a sort of depression i the substrate, push the clump of roots into it and then fill it in If you go down deep, once it is filled in you can then gently pull the plant up a bit so the crown is not buried. Some people use those tools but I just use my fingers. I find it much more difficult with sand than gravel.

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What do you mean data on intensity? I will have to give that a try Friday when I can get over to her house. Will the plants be alright for now? Also how long does it take for a planted to get rooted when it is transplated?
The intensity is the amount of light produced by a bulb or tube, and that is important. The spectrum is also important, but that is fine with this bulb.

Watts is not much of a guide to intensity now, with all the new types of bulbs that produce more light for less energy, since watts is only the measurement of the energy used and as I say this has no direct relationship to the intensity.

Hopefully someone who uses or has used this bulb will come along. But in the meantime, from your photos and given the tank size, I would expect there to be sufficient light.

Establishment of plants varies. Some grow faster, which means they send out roots faster.

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post #8 of 49 Old 05-20-2012, 09:16 PM Thread Starter
I will make sure to get some better pictures of the tank and plants. I think I will give the plants 3 weeks to start growing before I add fish

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post #9 of 49 Old 05-21-2012, 08:35 AM Thread Starter
Here are the pictures as promised. I think I will definantly get some drift wood, a black background, and also a nice rock to give to some depth.




any other ideas on how to spruce up the tank? I think for my first planted tank ever though its not half bad.

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post #10 of 49 Old 05-21-2012, 09:38 AM
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|Give it time to settle in. And some floating plants...did I mention floating plants?

The two small plants look similar, if the front are Dwarf Sagittaria as you earlier suggested, the back ones may be pygmy chain sword.

Plant fertilizer should be added, a complete liquid like Flourish Comprehensive Supplement or FlorinMulti, which I also think I mentinoed...somewhere.

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