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post #1 of 9 Old 04-21-2011, 04:50 PM Thread Starter
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Amazon plant growing long stem with leaves growing out along the stem.

Are they babies plants and if they are what do I do to reproduce them?

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post #2 of 9 Old 04-21-2011, 05:31 PM
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Yes, as soon as there is sufficient root growth you can take them carefully off and plant them. :) bonus plants. :)
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post #3 of 9 Old 04-22-2011, 09:59 AM
My amazon sword NEVER does that... how did you get yours to do that? please tell me your secret...
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post #4 of 9 Old 04-22-2011, 12:32 PM
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Javentura, you can read more on this in our profiles of the sword plants. Profiles are under the second tab from the left in the blue bar across the top of the page, or you can click on the fish or plant name when it is shaded in posts, example: Amazon Sword [common name, which must be exactly the same as in the profile to shade] or Echinodorus bleherae [scientific name]. There you will find info on the inflorescence (the flower stalk) and the adventitious [daughter] plants.

SinCrisis, which species? I may be able to suggest something.

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post #5 of 9 Old 04-22-2011, 01:56 PM
I have no idea, ive had it since before i actually was into planted tanks, its just grown and grown. It was sitting in one position for like 5 years from a little pot, and then when i re-did my tank, it was 18inches tall and upon inspection, i realized i could divide it by 2 at the base, was not sure if i had planted it that way or if a second plant just grew out from the main plant.

Does this help identify it?

Have never had it grow stalks and give me plantlets. The entire plant looking a little ill now, small pin-hole holes have been appearing since it was moved and planted in soil instead of gravel, dunno what to do about it though, already dose flourish with a half dose of potassium to help it but it hasnt improved :-/
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I have no idea, ive had it since before i actually was into planted tanks, its just grown and grown. It was sitting in one position for like 5 years from a little pot, and then when i re-did my tank, it was 18inches tall and upon inspection, i realized i could divide it by 2 at the base, was not sure if i had planted it that way or if a second plant just grew out from the main plant.

Does this help identify it?

Have never had it grow stalks and give me plantlets. The entire plant looking a little ill now, small pin-hole holes have been appearing since it was moved and planted in soil instead of gravel, dunno what to do about it though, already dose flourish with a half dose of potassium to help it but it hasnt improved :-/
It is probably Echinodorus bleherae, check the photos in the profile and see if this looks like it. This is the most generally-available "sword" although leaves can vary in length and width depending upon conditions (light and nutrients). It has growth phases, times during the year when leaves will appear, then not, and mine send out inflorescences that are multi-branched 2 or 3 times a year in the 115g, but those in the former 90g did once and now they are in the 70g two of them have sent up an inflorescence. One of the plants in the 115g is sending out another inflorescence e. I think the season has something to do with it as well.

I have noticed that most of my E. bleherae turn out to be 2 (sometimes 3) plants, I think they pot them that way and we don't notice it. The rhizome can be divided on large Echinodorus, but rather than this occurring I suspect it is the potting by the nursery.

Those holes are nutrient deficiency, which can be due to excess of something else. Not saying Potassium is it, but I do know that too much potassium will impede the assimilation of iron. And there may be other related issues. I have had similar from the swords (E. bleherae) in the 90g due to magnesium overdose back in 2009 but from which they never recovered completely; moving them to the 70g this past month with a Flourite substrate has stopped this, whatever the cause was, and all new leaf growth (which has taken off again) is darker and whole.

I would be careful dosing ad hoc nutrients with a soil substrate. The whole point of soil is not having to use fertilizers at all, according to Ms. Walstad, but I've never tried soil. If you are using Flourish Comprehensive, I would go to twice a week (max), and see, but nothing else. The Flourish line is intended to be used together (except for Flourish Comprehensive which is stand alone) and when just one of the line are added, unless that nutrient is one that is near-absent in the total balance, it is not likely to do much good. It sometimes takes some experimenting.

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post #7 of 9 Old 04-22-2011, 03:17 PM
Yea my other plants are showing decent growth, my dwarf chain swords have been having a leaf die-off lately, but new much longer leaves are coming out, not sure why, im getting a lot of low light behaviors despite having upgraded to a T5HO fixture. And if i take out my water sprite, i get masses of algae on my broad leaf plants. Not really sure what to do, but I feel like im hijacking this thread, so I will assess my situation more later today and create a thread on my many plant problems.
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Did you use the same soil as me?

Experiment... I would cut out the comprehensive and try just the potassium.

In Walstads book, she mentions that plants prefer to take some nutrients through the roots and some through the stem (although they can take them all from the water column, albeit slower)

I believe potassium is one that is prefered through the water column. Try just the potassium.

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post #9 of 9 Old 04-22-2011, 08:21 PM
I think i should be using the same soil, miracle gro organic choice potting soil. I never stirred it but i can see roots on one side of the glass so i think its doing fine.

I will try dosing just potassium but i am afraid of causing the plants to be unable to take in iron. Should i dose both? I have flourish iron but theres a warning label on it so i never used it.
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