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Old 02-21-2007, 02:34 PM   #11
 
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It seems like your plants might be growing well enough now that you need to start dosing some more ferts to keep the tank balanced. K, Ca, Mg and maybe No3 and PO4. this isnormally the cause of algae to start to get a grip and once it is balanced again it should deminish and go away. Don't start too high but I would recommend starting to dose most if not all of them to balance the tank back out.
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Old 02-21-2007, 04:17 PM   #12
 
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It seems like your plants might be growing well enough now that you need to start dosing some more ferts to keep the tank balanced. K, Ca, Mg and maybe No3 and PO4. this isnormally the cause of algae to start to get a grip and once it is balanced again it should deminish and go away. Don't start too high but I would recommend starting to dose most if not all of them to balance the tank back out.
Would dosing Flourish work or should I get something else? Are there tests that I should get to determine where my levels are?
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Old 02-21-2007, 05:39 PM   #13
 
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You have the test kits you need, NO3 and Po4 is all you test for most of the time. Flourish has a complete line of other ferts but that is a good idea. Try upping your dosage to 5 times a week or every day and see if it makes a difference. If not, you may have to get the other ferts. There are sources to get them dry if you are going to focus on plants and need to do a lot of dosing.
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Old 02-21-2007, 06:02 PM   #14
 
to prevent excess nutrients for the algae to survive, cut down the lighting and feed pellet food, pellet food if fed correctly give off the least waste and the lower lighting will starve the algae, if you have a CO2 unit you might want to cut that down too
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Old 02-21-2007, 07:30 PM   #15
 
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That may work, I don't know. I dose my tanks with everything and there is an excess of everything in my tanks and I only get algae when I don't dose the way I should.

To give you an idea, I dose the following
30ppm NO3 weekly, dosed 10ppm 3x a week
2.7-3.0ppm PO4 weekly, dosed .88ppm 3x a week
0.87-1.0ppm iron weekly, .29ppm dosed on opposite days of the above
Calcium once a week to 12ppm, after water change
Magnesium once a week to 3ppm, after water change

Never a shortage and the levels are well within target ranges that are safe for the fish. I don't think you need to dose those levels but some of the long time fish keepers I have talked to say that most algae problems are caused by something bottoming out along with an access of something else. As long as there is a balance, then you don't have the problems with algae. An excess once something else bottoms out can be as little as .25ppm NO3 if there is not enough PO4 or Iron to balance it so it doesn't take much.
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Old 02-21-2007, 09:17 PM   #16
 
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to prevent excess nutrients for the algae to survive, cut down the lighting and feed pellet food, pellet food if fed correctly give off the least waste and the lower lighting will starve the algae, if you have a CO2 unit you might want to cut that down too
I think overfeeding is part of my problem, I am feeding about half what I was and have tried FDs bloodworm feeding method tonight. So far so good. I am going to get some Cichlid pellets and start feeding that regularly, and do bloodworms once a week or so.
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Old 02-21-2007, 09:32 PM   #17
 
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That may work, I don't know. I dose my tanks with everything and there is an excess of everything in my tanks and I only get algae when I don't dose the way I should.

To give you an idea, I dose the following
30ppm NO3 weekly, dosed 10ppm 3x a week
2.7-3.0ppm PO4 weekly, dosed .88ppm 3x a week
0.87-1.0ppm iron weekly, .29ppm dosed on opposite days of the above
Calcium once a week to 12ppm, after water change
Magnesium once a week to 3ppm, after water change

Never a shortage and the levels are well within target ranges that are safe for the fish. I don't think you need to dose those levels but some of the long time fish keepers I have talked to say that most algae problems are caused by something bottoming out along with an access of something else. As long as there is a balance, then you don't have the problems with algae. An excess once something else bottoms out can be as little as .25ppm NO3 if there is not enough PO4 or Iron to balance it so it doesn't take much.
I will increase my flourish dosing to daily and see what happens, I also have liquid cheated iron. Should I start adding that too? I figured that flourish had everything I need. How do I test for PO4?
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Old 03-11-2007, 06:35 PM   #18
 
14 hours a day!!!!!!!!!! no wonder you have algae- i am suprised your tank isnt over flwing with gunk!
Seriously back the light off to somethin aroung 4 hours, that will give teh pllants enought energy to survive, but will be too low for algae- whcich will die off and dissovled into the water!
once you have it under control build the light levels up, but never passed 10 ever!
What region on earth has that much direct sunshine- there are so many poor books out there giving poor advice on lighting conditions it is unbelieveable.
ok the tropical rivers near the equator have strong light, but they have around 10,000 gallons of clean (ish)water passing through any one point every second- you have a volume of water that remains unchanged for a week- so you have to be careful how you treat it, essentially it is a time bomb ready to go off.
good luck hope it works out.
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