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post #21 of 79 Old 03-26-2013, 06:06 PM Thread Starter
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that would i would like to do, so you think with a ton of floaters i may be able to do this? should i uproot all the stems and try to let them float?
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post #22 of 79 Old 03-26-2013, 06:19 PM
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that would i would like to do, so you think with a ton of floaters i may be able to do this? should i uproot all the stems and try to let them float?
Possibly, depends what plant species they are; some stem plants float well, some don't. Get the duration down too.

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post #23 of 79 Old 03-26-2013, 07:21 PM Thread Starter
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goign to raise the light bring up my stems and keep the 8hr duration, well see how it goes.
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My problems with hair algae were always the result of too long of a light duration. That being said, can you get normal output tubes ? They would be more appropriate for a low tech planted tank and you could probably keep the lights on for 10 hours with normal ferts and no CO2.

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post #25 of 79 Old 03-26-2013, 07:56 PM Thread Starter
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good reccomendation monger, but my wife would kill me if i told her i wanted diffrent lights lol. we just got these so im going to use what i have to get the issue fixed. there is a balance to be found finding it is going to be the hard part. as the tank sits i have all the stems floating and raised the fixture about 4 more inches away from the top this with the 8hr photo period should do the trick here im thinking. if not DIy co2 is one of my last resorts. during all of this i AM going to still dose with the flourish trio i have, but only x1 a week followed by the ritual 50%l weekly waterchange.
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post #26 of 79 Old 03-27-2013, 06:25 PM Thread Starter
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update on the situation,

changed 50-65% water today and replanted stems.
light duration is now 8hrs a day
no ferts or light increases for the next week to see how things go.
trying to make phosphates a limiting factor here with the algae, same with light duration and intencity. at the end of next week i may raise light 2 more inches.
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good reccomendation monger, but my wife would kill me if i told her i wanted diffrent lights lol. we just got these so im going to use what i have to get the issue fixed. there is a balance to be found finding it is going to be the hard part. as the tank sits i have all the stems floating and raised the fixture about 4 more inches away from the top this with the 8hr photo period should do the trick here im thinking. if not DIy co2 is one of my last resorts. during all of this i AM going to still dose with the flourish trio i have, but only x1 a week followed by the ritual 50%l weekly waterchange.
It's just bulbs, not a whole fixture that could be changed. Eventually you will get the fixture high enough that the dispersion will effectively reduce the intensity... at least you might be able to use the one fixture for two tanks.... that would be cool.

Going for the balance sounds like you will need to address the light or you may end up having such a short photo period that you never get to really see the fish.

Maybe I'm extremely lucky... still no algae, 14hours plus lighting and now I have direct sunlight into the tank in the late afternoon as well. I can't even tell that the lights are on at that point. Glad I've got lots of plants and driftwood so the catfish can be out of the light. They certainly are colourful as they sometimes swim through it though... sunlight is the best light for seeing the fish in their true colours. Cherry barbs are a very vibrant red... at least the males are, shrimp too... could use more algae for the shrimp...

Anyhow... good luck with your tweaking.

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It only takes a little direct sunlight to get all the algae you want...and more. Be careful with that, Jeff.

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post #29 of 79 Old 03-28-2013, 01:48 PM
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I know, I am keeping a VERY close eye on it. All I need to do to eliminate it would be to pull a curtain over part of the window... It's not in the window so it is only late afternoon sun and it's about 15' across the room..... but I am willing to let it go and see what happens in the interest of curiosity.

I'll let everyone know if I find anything interesting out in the process.

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post #30 of 79 Old 03-28-2013, 03:27 PM Thread Starter
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im leanign towards a nitrient imblance and to intence lighitng, the par on these lights is around 90 arrocding to tom barr. ive bought a circulating pump for the tank today as the hob just sits on one side of the 55 which is 48" long. talking to a memeber on here that said iron excess and poor circulation can also cause bba. however mine is a greenish blue hair algae, byron seems to think bba. today i notcied my plants looking a bit pale. i might have to breakdown and dose with some flourish since i havent since the 65% wc yesterday. i also picked up a phospahte removing media its green and cut to size anyone try it or think this could help/hurt my situation?
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