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post #21 of 42 Old 11-22-2011, 12:53 PM
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I am getting new submersed leaves growing on my swords, but the entire new leaves are transparent. I see that this is usually a nutrient deficiency. I am currently dosing once a week with flourish comprehensive. I have been looking for root tabs but haven't found them at petsmart or my LFS. I have one other LFS to check with but I'm not hopeful. Would it be worth it to buy these online; would it solve my problem?
Probably. New leaves should be paler (a light green) than existing leaves, but transparent is getting too pale if you mean when the leaf is a decent size. Echinodorus are heavy feeders. Plant nutrients occur from many sources: tap water (via the water change), fish foods, decomposing organics. All of these will vary from tank to tank. Generally speaking, Flourish Comprehensive Supplement dosed once or twice a week will supplement most tanks that are setup as natural or low-tech. Using substrate fertilizers (tabs) esp with heavy feeding swords is probably better than dosing Flourish Comp twice. I have experimented with this, and found I had less other issues with Flourish Comp once a week [as opposed to twice], when I used Flourish Tabs next to the larger swords (one tab per plant).

You can buy Flourish tabs online; probably less expensive than in a fish store too [it is for me]. There are ten tabs in a package, and you need one per large sword plant; they must be replaced every 3 months (according to Seachem).

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post #22 of 42 Old 11-22-2011, 01:11 PM Thread Starter
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Perfect, just didn't want to waste my money if there wasn't a possibility it would help. Thanks.
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post #23 of 42 Old 12-13-2011, 05:14 PM Thread Starter
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I finally got some Flourish tabs and placed them in my tank a couple days ago. Growth has been getting better and even before I bought the tabs the leaves had stopped being transparent. I hope the swords start getting taller I feel like I need some height in the tank.

I bought some Anubias Nana and it is doing well. I decided to attach it to a fake decoration I have and it is working great. I am going to get some more to replace the other fake plants still in the tank this week, as well as try some wisteria floating to see if it will grow ok. I haven't been able to find any other floating plants locally. I am really happy with the transition to real plants and my fish seem to like swimming in and around the real plants a lot more than any of the fake ones I used to have.

I took a couple pictures to show here as well as log plant growth for myself. The fts isn't great due to some light reflections but I'll get some better pictures soon.



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The java fern in the last two pictures doesn't seem to be growing much. I don't know if I should pull it out of the little hole it is in on the driftwood or not. It has some algae growing on it as well I think. Not really sure what to do with it.

Also any aquascaping ideas are always welcome. I am not opposed to removing any of the fake decorations I have, just don't really know what to put in their place.

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post #24 of 42 Old 12-13-2011, 06:18 PM
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I have found Java Fern to take a long time to settle in and then off it grows. The swords are looking good.

One suggestion on the aquascaping; the log/root piece that is in the centre should be moved left or right. Anything centered always draws attention to itself, and decreases the perception of space in the tank. There are several options, but given its vertical shape I would tend to use it to "hide" the filter stem on the left. The cave piece could be moved to the right then.

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The java fern in the last two pictures doesn't seem to be growing much. I don't know if I should pull it out of the little hole it is in on the driftwood or not. It has some algae growing on it as well I think. Not really sure what to do with it.

I really don't know much at all yet because I just transitioned to planted last month myself, but in my readings I saw that java fern grow baby plants at the end of their leaves; this might be the algae you're referring to? I got one last night that had a baby growth and plucked it off to grow in another tank.
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Also I like your mopani wood :) Assuming that's what it is; I just picked up one last night myself that's soaking at the moment. I can't wait to use it.
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post #27 of 42 Old 12-13-2011, 06:36 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the idea Byron, I didn't think about moving the taller decoration to the left to hide the filter intake. I'm glad to know that the swords are looking ok and I will give the java fern some more time.
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post #28 of 42 Old 12-13-2011, 06:43 PM Thread Starter
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Misakitty, thanks for the compliment. I'm really not sure what type of wood it is. The package it came in at the lfs didn't say anything, but I liked the way this one looked and new right away where I could put it in my tank. I'll keep an eye on the java fern.
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All those little branchy growths off the end look like new sprouts to me. I bought the only one at the store that had one of those already growing because I wanted more plants.
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post #30 of 42 Old 12-15-2011, 02:02 PM Thread Starter
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So I bought some new plants last night and rearranged the tank a little bit. I'm pretty happy with how it sits now and I think it will look great when the dwarf hairgrass grows in and the swords get taller.

I removed the brown log cave piece and moved the anubias attached to it to the log. I created a nice open space in the middle and I'm hoping for some nice growth from the hairgrass to cover that area. I also got a couple small Wisteria to try floating and see if they'll grow for me. I'll try and check back in a few weeks to log growth. Let me know what you think! Comments and ideas are always welcome.





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