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This is a discussion on 75 Gallon Plant Log within the Beginner Planted Aquarium forums, part of the Beginner Freshwater Aquarium category; --> Originally Posted by Tigris Can't find GH....help? http://documents.publicworks.houston...eport_2011.pdf Lights are in for 8 hrs Posted via Mobile Device No mention of GH, presumably because ...

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Old 08-12-2012, 01:55 PM   #11
 
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Can't find GH....help?
http://documents.publicworks.houston...eport_2011.pdf

Lights are in for 8 hrs
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No mention of GH, presumably because they are concerned with "contaminants" and the hard minerals will not be that, unlike copper which is mentioned.

For the moment, i would just let the plants settle as this is likely the issue, as I described initially in this thread. It would help to know the GH though, just in case, and for that perhaps ask a reliable fish store to test the tap water (not the tank), or they may already know. Numbers if they test is what we want, not some generality like "medium". With the Alkalinity at 180ppm (10 dKH), one would expect the GH to be comparable, but not always is this the case. The GH also affects the fish, so it is worth knowing anyway.

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Old 08-13-2012, 12:13 AM   #12
 
I'm assuming the GH can be done via a dropper test?
Does GH and KH drop as water becomes older and the elements stripped away?

I am having a problem keeping the swords down...they keep floating up
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:39 AM   #13
 
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I'm assuming the GH can be done via a dropper test?
Does GH and KH drop as water becomes older and the elements stripped away?

I am having a problem keeping the swords down...they keep floating up
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The API liquid test kit for GH and KH is the one I use. However, I would not spend money on a kit you may only use once. At this point we only want to know the GH. This will not need to be tested again unless you decide to adjust it either way (up or down). So finding out from a reliable source the tap water GH is all we need at present.

To the second question, generally the GH and KH will not alter in an aquarium unless they are being directly targeted, meaning, you are taking measures to raise or lower the GH/KH. Over time the water would soften slightly as the minerals are used by the plants, but having never experimented with this I am not aware of the rate at which this occurs. In my own situation, I have near-zero GH and KH out of the tap, so I need to add the hard minerals in order to grow plants, and I use Equilibrium which adds calcium, magnesium, potassium, iron and something else I can't recall at the moment. I add sufficient at each water change (of half the tanks) to raise the GH to 5 or 6 dGH and it tends to remain there for the week. Obviously the plants are using the calcium and magnesium but it does not appear to be heavily.

On the swords, if these are Echinodorus, you need to bury the root system well in the substrate. New plants often have few and short roots, so in this case bury it well and perhaps place a small bit of rock on top of the substrate. Try not to bury the crown, as this can cause the leaves to rot.

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Old 08-14-2012, 03:37 AM   #14
 
Update, some of the transparent (new growths) are still there, but for the most part the older transparent ones are gone....with the exception of the brown on the umbrella sword, the java fern, and a few leaves on the others....everything is going well....

Also, the old plant and aquarium bulbs (don't know how old possibly several years) have been replaced with two T12 bulbs rated for 6500K and I believe 2700 lumens....I will double check in the morning...

I also added some crypt but not sure what type and if it is really crypt....will post pics in morning...

Lastly, I did a 25% water change yesterday and will do another then add more Flourish....

Also, added a peacock eel and moved the tiger barbs because they were attacking him....I can't get him to eat though

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1) Is the browning of the leaves signify anything?
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Old 08-14-2012, 11:39 AM   #15
 
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Update, some of the transparent (new growths) are still there, but for the most part the older transparent ones are gone....with the exception of the brown on the umbrella sword, the java fern, and a few leaves on the others....everything is going well....

Also, the old plant and aquarium bulbs (don't know how old possibly several years) have been replaced with two T12 bulbs rated for 6500K and I believe 2700 lumens....I will double check in the morning...

I also added some crypt but not sure what type and if it is really crypt....will post pics in morning...

Lastly, I did a 25% water change yesterday and will do another then add more Flourish....

Also, added a peacock eel and moved the tiger barbs because they were attacking him....I can't get him to eat though

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1) Is the browning of the leaves signify anything?
In another thread we have identified this so-called "Umbrella" sword as being a terrestrial plant, the Peace Lily, Spathiphyllum wallisii. Hiscock includes this in his encyclopeida, noting that it may remain alive submersed or it may not. If you see it deterioriating, I would take it out before it rots and pollutes. I have this plant but in the corner of my living room, not in an aquarium.

The tiger barb and peacock eel is no surprise, that is exactly what I would expect.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:57 PM   #16
 
Since the bulbs aren't full spectrum (I believe) will that have any effects on the plants?

I'm should be finalizing the aqua scape tonight so I'll post pics then.
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Old 08-14-2012, 08:50 PM   #17
 
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Since the bulbs aren't full spectrum (I believe) will that have any effects on the plants?

I'm should be finalizing the aqua scape tonight so I'll post pics then.
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If they are the 6700K mentioned previously, that's fine.
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Old 08-16-2012, 04:05 PM   #18
 
Here is the aquascape, any comments or suggestions would be appreciated!

Can anyone ID the crypt by the dragon?
Also my female cherries are extremely plump and release a clear fluid but it doesn't look like poop?
Anyone recognize the spiney eel? It was sold as a peacock but it doesn't have the telltale eyes on its tail....

In the tank:
4 M 3 F Cherry Barbs
1 M Betta
1 Peacock Eel
1 Ghost Shrimp that has survived

Future Inhabitants:
7-8 Striped Kuhli Loaches
1 Bumblebee Catfish
Any other suggestions? I want something for the top areas of the tank, a schooling fish for sure and a centerpiece/ pair would be nice

Plants:
6 Amazon Swords
1 Lily/ Umbrella Sword
1 Compact Sword
1 Crypt (ID Please)
1 Java Moss
1 Java Fern

Lighting:
The fixture that came with the tank and two T12 rated for 6500 K
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Old 08-16-2012, 09:08 PM   #19
 
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A background. And the simplest is the best, something like plain black construction paper that you can get at a craft/hobby store. Two sheets cut and taped together to fit. That will really focus things. Then just let the plants grow in.
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Old 08-16-2012, 09:33 PM   #20
 
Any idea what kind of crypt I have
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