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post #121 of 174 Old 05-07-2012, 08:15 PM
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Sorry still no pics, I'm sick I stayed home from school and everything. The problem is that my tank is over run with snails!! I know they can be helpful, but there's waaaaayyy too many!! I also think they have been eating my val, the tips are torn, while the plants is healthy. Is there are to get rid of them? There's also green algae on my sand which must likely means I'm waaay overdue for a water change, but I haven't had time. My grandma's sick and we've spent the past weekends at her house which is 45min away. Hopefully I have time later in the week. Next week my mom's on vacation so she's going to try to get to me to my lfs to get some fish. I'm thinking of getting 7 Rummy nose tetras, I want a total of 11.
If water cdhanges cannot be regularly done, best to limit or eliminate feeding, as food in will only add to the organics and make things worse. The algae on the sand is due to this, plus light. If it is cyanobacteria, that is high organics. This will also increase the snails to deal with the organics (food).

The small common snails do not eat plants, and Vallisneria is notorious for dying at the tips if it is the Giant Vall.

Getting the tank back in balance with water changes is the important issue.

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post #122 of 174 Old 05-07-2012, 08:19 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks, Is I don't want to I'm just haven't had time, but I'm going to MAKE time, lol. Do you know of any way to reduce or get rid of snails?

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Assassin snail would do the trick but its best to fix the root problem. Snails are a good "water quality meter" as they will only breed up to the available food supply. I'd do a couple water changes over the course of the week then try to get back on a regular regiment. Once your water is back in line the snails will decrease
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post #124 of 174 Old 05-09-2012, 07:06 AM Thread Starter
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Well I did a water change last night, ( thank God) ,but my four lil fish died. I'm not sure why, but I hope my water's ok. I might get check out next week.

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Well I did a water change last night, ( thank God) ,but my four lil fish died. I'm not sure why, but I hope my water's ok. I might get check out next week.
Could have been the neglect caused high nitrates and it finally got them, some fish are more sensitive than others. But another perhaps more likely reason is doing a water change that altered the chemistry too much.

When water changes are not done, organics build. Nitrates usually rise in response, but pH may also decline. This depends upon the buffering capacity of the KH in the water. If for instance the pH becomes acidic, then all the ammonia being produced by fish and the breakdown of the additional organics will be relatively harmless as ammonium. If a water change is then done with tap water that is basic (pH above 7) and the pH in the tank should rise above 7 because of the water change, the ammonium immediately changes back to ammonia. Result, dead fish.

I know things sometimes get in the way, but it still must be said that regular partial water changes must be done. But if they can't be, then do very small changes over a period of days to bring the tank back into balance more slowly. Any significant changes in water chemistry, whether pH, nitrates, or whatever, can be fatal as you've seen.

Hope this will help at least in future, and for others who may find themselves in a similar situation.

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Thank you for explaining Bryon. It's just been so hard with my grandma being sick and school, but I'm getting back on track, infact I'm highly disappointed in myself. I know I can do better.

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The green algae is still on the sand in places, even after I cleaned the tank. Why is that? I did over a 50% water change+ I mixed the sand.

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The green algae is still on the sand in places, even after I cleaned the tank. Why is that? I did over a 50% water change+ I mixed the sand.
Looking back at the photos in this thread, I would suggest this is partly the result of white sand; not that it is causing the algae but it is going to be more visible. I know there is algae or a biofilm on my sand, but I can't really see it. Second, as the plants increase they will work against this. Floating plants to dim the light would also help.

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I was thinking of adding iron to my tank is really bring out the red in my Ludwigia and red flame sword. Is this a good idea?

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I was thinking of adding iron to my tank is really bring out the red in my Ludwigia and red flame sword. Is this a good idea?
Basically no, because it is difficult to manage. Iron is a heavy metal and highly toxic to all life forms. There is iron in all liquid fertilizers (like Flourish Comp which I assume you are using) and this is sufficient and safe because it is balanced with the other nutrients.

Red plants need more light than green because they appear red due to reflecting red light, just as green plants appear green because they are reflecting mainly green light. Red plants thus require a bit more intense light, or more red spectrum light.

Increasing trace minerals might help, and be less risky, as here again things are balanced. Increasing some nutrients can cause deficiencies of other nutrients in various ways, sometimes deliberately by the plants. A root tab by the sword would probably help.

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