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post #21 of 36 Old 01-29-2012, 05:07 PM
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Wish I could help with the list for. Not sure if it was just me but the site wouldn't load the three times I checked it during the day, might be why there are no reply's yet.

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post #22 of 36 Old 01-30-2012, 08:21 AM Thread Starter
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That might be it. I've been having a lot of trouble getting TFK to load, myself. I figured it was just my choppy DSL, but everything else has been working fine.

I am wondering which plant substrate is better, SeaChem Flourite or CaribSea FloraMax?

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post #23 of 36 Old 01-30-2012, 08:23 AM Thread Starter
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That might be it. I've been having a lot of trouble getting TFK to load, myself. I figured it was just my choppy DSL, but everything else has been working fine.

I am wondering which substrate is better, SeaChem Flourite or CaribSea FloraMax?

small fry,

FireOasis - 3g
Zachary the Halfmoon Plakat

CichlidHaven - 55g (under construction!)
0.0.7 Black Widow Tetra
1.0.1 Convict Cichlid
0.1.0 Firemouth Cichlid

HermitBase - 10g
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post #24 of 36 Old 01-30-2012, 09:56 AM
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I dont have any faith in planting substrates, not that some of them do not have their place. Ive been successful with gravel as I have with planting substrate, and as successful as I hear people with sand are. I wouldnt spend the money, personally.

I had issues all yesterday afternoon connecting, FYI.

and crypts do not reproduce SUPER fast. I would get enough to mostly fill the area in and let them thicken up. Whos to say they sprout a new runner where you want a new plant? :P

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post #25 of 36 Old 01-30-2012, 10:04 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the information. If the planting substrate isn't going to make a huge difference, then I won't bother purchasing any. Instead I think I'll add a Crypt or two. They are about $5 a piece from where I am purchasing them. I'll try to recompose a new shopping list.

Thanks beetlebz!

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Zachary the Halfmoon Plakat

CichlidHaven - 55g (under construction!)
0.0.7 Black Widow Tetra
1.0.1 Convict Cichlid
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post #26 of 36 Old 01-30-2012, 10:10 AM Thread Starter
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Ok, here is my new list.

Pending Order 2.jpg

What do you guys think?

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Zachary the Halfmoon Plakat

CichlidHaven - 55g (under construction!)
0.0.7 Black Widow Tetra
1.0.1 Convict Cichlid
0.1.0 Firemouth Cichlid

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post #27 of 36 Old 01-30-2012, 12:45 PM
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I couldn't load TFK at all yesterday. Don't know what was the issue. Seems OK now.

Picking up on questions/issues: I agree the enriched substrate is probably a waste of money. Flourite (which I have in my 70g) and Eco-complete (which I've seen and handled in stores) are both rough, and substrate fish like corys and loaches can have trouble. I moved my corys out of the 70g due to this. Playsand or fine smooth dark gravel will work well.

You still have stem plants I wouldn't in a 10g. Wisteria is to me an issue with its very rapid growth. One plant would fill your tank within a few weeks. That would be an interesting aquascape esp for small sparkling gourami, the Boraras rasbora species, Scarlet Badis, and some pencilfish; just the one plant everywhere. I would also forget the other Hygrophila.

Crypts are good, and hairgrass. Another substrate plant is pygmy chain sword or dwarf Sagittaria, they look very similar. The Water Sprite, do you know which species? Ceratopteris cornuta is best floating, an ideal plant, and you will need to control it but that is not difficult during weekly water changes. If this is the species, one plant will suffice; in no time you will have dozens.

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post #28 of 36 Old 01-30-2012, 12:51 PM
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I mixed my old playsand 50/50 with Floramax. Mostly for aesthetics though, have nothing to base it's performance on. I wanted something slightly darker (not black, and didn't want to do a full substrate change) so I figured what the heck, rinsed it off and mixed it in. I love the way it looks, although most of the top layer is now only Floramax as the finer sand settled to the bottom. There are a few small sand "burms" where the catfish really like rooting around. It is a bit more coarse and as like Byron said could effect Cory's but with my larger Emerald Catfish I have not noticed anything negative.

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post #29 of 36 Old 01-30-2012, 02:14 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the replies! Didn't realize the site was down yesterday, but I guess everyone was having some of the same problems.

I am going to skip the substrate and spend that on plants since I already laid the money aside. I really appreciate the recommendations on my list. I will address them really quickly.

I would really like to keep one species of fast growing stem plant. Like I said, I wouldn't mind trimming down the tank every two weeks or so, but I certainly wouldn't want something that would get out of control, though. I guess under your recommendation I'll go ahead and remove Wisteria from the cart.

I thought that you were saying that the dwarf Sagi is imported and not native to Asia? I wouldn't mind getting some, but I do want this to remain a small, densely planted Asian Biotype. Are Pygmy Chains Asian also? I was thinking for sure that those were SA.

The water sprite species is Ceratopteris thalictroides. Are you familiar with the characteristics of this particular species?

Also, I'm dropping the Giant Hygro. :)

Thank you so much Byron! Your advice is invaluable!

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Zachary the Halfmoon Plakat

CichlidHaven - 55g (under construction!)
0.0.7 Black Widow Tetra
1.0.1 Convict Cichlid
0.1.0 Firemouth Cichlid

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post #30 of 36 Old 01-30-2012, 03:09 PM Thread Starter
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Hey guys, here is my most recent list.

Pending Order 3.jpg

I've made some modifications. Changed it down to only 3 plant species now. I'd love a little bit more variety if anyone had any Asian plant suggestions, though.

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FireOasis - 3g
Zachary the Halfmoon Plakat

CichlidHaven - 55g (under construction!)
0.0.7 Black Widow Tetra
1.0.1 Convict Cichlid
0.1.0 Firemouth Cichlid

HermitBase - 10g
Zephus & Monoculus the Purple Pinchers (Coenobita clypeatus)

BreedingProjects
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