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post #11 of 29 Old 11-08-2011, 12:46 PM
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Ok got it thanks for explaining it were I can understand it. And I am sorry for side tracking the thread but one more question, how often should the lights be changed?

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post #12 of 29 Old 11-08-2011, 01:58 PM
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Ok got it thanks for explaining it were I can understand it. And I am sorry for side tracking the thread but one more question, how often should the lights be changed?
With the regular T8 tubes, I've seen recommendations from 1 to 3 years. Over the past 3 years with new tubes (and using Life-Glo and Phillips daylight here) I've found that 12-18 months is max; at 18 months I changed the tubes and that brush algae increase stopped. The tube's intensity decreases faster than one might expect.

Karen Randall has written than 12 months is max for T8, and she further suggests changing the tubes alternately in dual-tube fixtures. Dual tubes means two full-length tubes where the light from each is spread over the tank length. So every 6 months one of them is changed. There is logic in her thinking; one tube will be low after 12 months, and the second will not be so low after only 6 months, so this means there is less of a decrease at any one time.

And Mikaila's advice of a timer is important; a regular light/dark period is better all round.

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Mine are on timers because I am a good student and have learned alot from Master Byron and the others here. LOL

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Well... maybe. I was addressing the specifics in this thread, and rather briefly perhaps. But to explain more fully: algae needs light. Nutrients will always be available if fish are present, so with light--and any light--algae will appear. In planted tanks algae should be present but minimally. This is achieved by having a balance between light and nutrients. Provided the nutrients are all available, and the light is sufficient in intensity, plants will photosynthesize full-out, and algae does not have an advantage, though it will be present minimally. Once the balance is broken--which can be one important nutrient no longer available, or the light no longer sufficient--algae takes advantage. In a natural planted tank, CO2 is usually the first factor to be used up; this is why it is critical to balance the light period with the nutrients.

Light should always be the limiting factor, because it is easiest to control and without it algae cannot become a nuisance. If the light is not of sufficient intensity to balance the nutrients, plants will slow and perhaps even stop photosynthesis, and algae takes the advantage. With older tubes, the light intensity is weaker, and at some point becomes too weak for the plants' needs. This is why tubes must be replaced regularly, and not allowed to just "burn out." I have had algae increases which I determined were related to the tube condition, since replacing the tubes stopped the increase.

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How old is "older tubes?" The ones I have now are less that a year, I think. Everything looked great until this last accidental bout of leaving the lights on. Now, I can't seem to get rid of the yuck look. Don't get me wrong, the tanks are not filthy or anything, just not as nice as I like them to look.

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How old is "older tubes?" The ones I have now are less that a year, I think. Everything looked great until this last accidental bout of leaving the lights on. Now, I can't seem to get rid of the yuck look. Don't get me wrong, the tanks are not filthy or anything, just not as nice as I like them to look.
12-18 months, Inga look at post #12 Byron explains it there
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12-18 months, Inga look at post #12 Byron explains it there
Oops! I really need to get glasses, I totallly missed that post. ha ha I think MAYBE it is time for new bullbs.

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post #17 of 29 Old 11-11-2011, 09:12 PM
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If bulbs are in that time frame I would definitely change them. It would make a difference. I don't have to wear glasses and still mess things like that so do t feel bad LoL
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post #18 of 29 Old 11-27-2011, 08:04 AM Thread Starter
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continued saga....

I continue to struggle with my tank. It was so lovely for so long and then went downhill so fast when I was in the hospital. I have not gotten it back. I don't know if it is food on the leaves or algae or what. there is like a fine dust all over everything in the tank. The sponge filter is new, but the wood has this dusty look and the leaves are horrid on every plant. I tried brushing the leaves off carefully and thought I had it under control but it continues.

I feed various foods but aside from the crisps, the rest are sinking foods. Some does land on the leaves and wood so that is why I thought it was the problem. I changed bulbs, clean the water constantly. The water is not the problem so, what is? Any thoughts?

Everyone seems healthy and happy in the tank but my plants are being pulled out one after the other because they look so bad. I have replaced a few but they now have that same fuzzy look with brown leaves appearing shortly there after. Thought? Anyone?

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post #19 of 29 Old 11-27-2011, 11:51 AM
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It is not likely to be due to the food. Can you post a photo of the tank or a plant showing this?

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post #20 of 29 Old 11-27-2011, 03:16 PM Thread Starter
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I will work on getting one. I just wiped most of the leaves in an effort to remove it. The ones that were really full I just cut out. The pictures I took don't show it well.

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