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Will this kill off filter Bacteria?
Old 07-14-2012, 09:17 AM   #11
 
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Ich is very, very easy to treat. Raising the temp to 86 is all you need to do. I have yet to find a fish that couldn't handle the warm water for 2 weeks ( all my fish are given a heat treatment while in quarantine). There is no point to using multiple treatments at once.
Hey Jaysee, you've been of great help, me and my friend really appreciate it!

I've told him to slowly raise the temperature, and he is currently at 82F/28C, up several degrees from its previous 25-26C.
I've told him to use some of that eSHa EXIT product too, to which he has done, he said the fish started to swim a little erratically after about 20 minutes or so, but I told him that might be because of the ingredients working more so than it harming the fish, he's also taken the Carbon out of his Filter too and turned all his aeration up to the maximum.
- How long do you think I should tell him to keep the temperature up for? And at what temperature specifically?
86F/30C for 1-2 weeks?


(Not sure if I mentioned this before, but the eSHa EXIT product is biodegradable and it also states water changes aren't needed after the full treatment, apart from normal weekly water changes).

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Old 07-14-2012, 10:04 AM   #12
 
P.S. Jaysee, you recommend not using multiple treatments at once.

Does this mean that you recommend just using the heat treatment, and not the medication he bought? I.E put the Carbon back into the Filter and let it filter the Medication out, then continue with raising the Temp.
Also: Do you have much experience with curing Ich on Cherry Barbs, Platys and Albino Corydoras at higher temperatures? Since I wasn't exactly sure if they could handle it entirely.
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Old 07-14-2012, 11:06 PM   #13
 
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The treatment is 2 weeks at 86. Some strains have a higher tolerance of heat than others, so while you may see recommendations for lower temps, the reason I suggest a higher one is to ensure a successful treatment. Only once was 86 insufficient - 90 was required. The lower the temp, the greater the chance of the treatment not working.

I don't know anything about the med of which you speak. When I have had to medicate, quick cure was/is my go to med. the reason you should not mix treatments (meds with heat) is that many meds utilize the oxygen in the water, which is depleted from the higher temp. Most everyone will tell you to use an air stone - I don't own one. IME it is unnecessary, even at 90 degrees. You will also hear that you have to do daily water changes and gravel vacs - something else I don't do. As long as you are adding the same temp water back to th tank, it's not going to hurt you, but it's something I've found to be unnecessary. I also do not raise the temp "slowly". I plug in the heater which is pre set to the desired temp (it's important to play with it to find that sweet spot. Don't just assume it will be 86 because that's what the dial is set to).. The heater is not going to raise the water temp fast enough to be a problem.

I have not encountered a fish that had a problem with the heat treatment, barbs, corys and platys included.

I would put carbon back in and just do the heat.
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:44 AM   #14
 
Do both heat and meds kill ich during the reproductive cycle?
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