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post #11 of 23 Old 01-18-2012, 02:29 PM Thread Starter
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hmm good points.. in recent weeks there was a total outage of water to our area for 24 hours perhaps the repairs to that generated issues i had not thought of?

as for leaching form the rocks it is not impossible and i intend to see if she will go for all new materials since we are trying to start fresh...

now with this in mind with our water i heavily treat the water any way but i was wondering if it would be worth the effort to transport all of the water needed from a natural spring near us that we get our drinking water from? granted 55 gallons may be a bit of a pain to transport but perhaps worth the added effort?

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post #12 of 23 Old 01-18-2012, 04:51 PM
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I would contact the water supply people first and see what I could find out.

Spring water is basically OK, but carries issues too. First, parameters; second, all the live "stuff" which chlorine supposedly removes in our tap water. Local fish may be immune to all this, but aquarium fish are not. Just a caution.

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Similar issue?

Don't know if this is your problem, but...

Guppies have gained a reputation as being the new "Typhoid Mary" disease vectors in the fish world. After my ongoing experiences with guppies in one of my tanks, I agree. Here is my story, which may connect to your issue.
I had angels, no problem. I had glofish for the kids, no problem. Got guppies, and started having unexplained fish deaths. Guppies started first. They would get bloated or waste away. No consistent pattern. Other fish that had shared the tank started to waste away, danios first.

I did copper treatments, shotgun antibiotics, massive frequent water changes. The frequent water changes seemed to slow the deaths somewhat. Finally I saw some Cammallnus worm hanging out my angel's vent. They were in another tank, but had cohabitated with the guppies briefly. Never saw any indication of the worms in any of the other fish. Treated both tanks for cammalanus worms and the deaths stopped! Unfortunately, about every 6 months, the guppies start to get bloated looking. I repeat the anti-parasite treatment, the guppy "bloat" disappears and all's good for a while. I am sincerely convinced that my guppies are a reservoir for something. Not positive what, but something. Could be related to your issue? Good luck!

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post #14 of 23 Old 01-19-2012, 06:58 AM Thread Starter
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I would contact the water supply people first and see what I could find out.

Spring water is basically OK, but carries issues too. First, parameters; second, all the live "stuff" which chlorine supposedly removes in our tap water. Local fish may be immune to all this, but aquarium fish are not. Just a caution.
so true about the water!! i will have to call our water company and see if i can get a report sent to me in the mean time the breakdown starts today...

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Don't know if this is your problem, but...

Guppies have gained a reputation as being the new "Typhoid Mary" disease vectors in the fish world. After my ongoing experiences with guppies in one of my tanks, I agree. Here is my story, which may connect to your issue.
I had angels, no problem. I had glofish for the kids, no problem. Got guppies, and started having unexplained fish deaths. Guppies started first. They would get bloated or waste away. No consistent pattern. Other fish that had shared the tank started to waste away, danios first.

I did copper treatments, shotgun antibiotics, massive frequent water changes. The frequent water changes seemed to slow the deaths somewhat. Finally I saw some Cammallnus worm hanging out my angel's vent. They were in another tank, but had cohabitated with the guppies briefly. Never saw any indication of the worms in any of the other fish. Treated both tanks for cammalanus worms and the deaths stopped! Unfortunately, about every 6 months, the guppies start to get bloated looking. I repeat the anti-parasite treatment, the guppy "bloat" disappears and all's good for a while. I am sincerely convinced that my guppies are a reservoir for something. Not positive what, but something. Could be related to your issue? Good luck!
interesting issue .... not sure if related as i can not appear to keep anything alive in there except the 2 guppies and they seem happy as all can be with no apparent signs of ill health..

last feeder is fighting to hang on this morning. he will swim around, then stop and lie down to rest and then swim more... sucks to have to see him suffer but we will see what happens after work today.
taking mama on a shopping trip to get a few things for my SW tank and then start buying new gear for her tank so the breakdown can start right away. full clean with bleach and 4 days of rinsing and dechlorinating ... then the rebuild.. hey i may even to a thread on it LOL who knows ... thank you all for your help and suggestions i hope that a fresh start and new materials will be the key...

side note to Byron - after she read your replies she promptly went to the tank and tossed the rocks LOL... i have been trying to get her to do that for months!! thank you

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post #15 of 23 Old 01-19-2012, 11:13 AM
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Glad to be of help...on both scores.

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post #16 of 23 Old 01-19-2012, 11:46 AM
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Talk about bad luck...

From working in a fish store, Guppies seem to be somewhat more susceptible to stress and disease during shipment than others... Maybe go to your lfs and ask when they get their shipments in (say wednesday), then go the day before (tuesday), and choose from that stock. Hopefully eliminating any with problems related to poor shipping conditions.

Hey, it's worth a shot, right?

Good luck man!
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post #17 of 23 Old 01-19-2012, 11:48 AM Thread Starter
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true it is.. but we have a few weeks to consider how to stock .. i just called home and the breakdown has started LOL.. she is ummmmm shall we say.. eager to move along LOL..

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I can't say that this is your problem, but I mentioned it before so I just thought I'd give the info for anyone that might have this problem in the future- You can check for stray voltage with a "volt meter". As per an experienced guy in my local club, stray voltage can cause fish to do weird things and can cause deaths over time. So I just thought I'd throw that out there. Good luck, whatever the cause is!

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I can't say that this is your problem, but I mentioned it before so I just thought I'd give the info for anyone that might have this problem in the future- You can check for stray voltage with a "volt meter". As per an experienced guy in my local club, stray voltage can cause fish to do weird things and can cause deaths over time. So I just thought I'd throw that out there. Good luck, whatever the cause is!
great thank you i forgot to come back and ask about this part!! where can one find one? would the type of tester at the local hardware store work for this?

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post #20 of 23 Old 01-19-2012, 03:06 PM
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I'd try to borrow one as my first option, since its probably not something you'd use all the time. Failing that, I'll ask the club guy where to get it, since I have never used it myself. I'll let you know when he lets me know.

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