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The wife just doesn't understand
Old 07-21-2010, 02:12 PM   #11
 
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I think a good starter size is 30 gallons. Plenty of space to put a good number of fish in but not so large as to be overwhelming. A 30 is very easy to fit into your house with only a little bit of work. I would really recommend against a 55 because their shape is horrible. They're very narrow but deep. It makes them very hard to aquascape. I would go to a 75 if you want a four foot long tank. Same width and height as a 55 but another 5" of depth that make all the difference in the world. 40 Breeders are very nice to me, lots of room to aquascape. I really want to make a stand for a 40 breeder that will put it up about shoulder level.
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Old 07-22-2010, 10:31 PM   #12
 
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Any ideas of what you want in fish stock? Also, knowing what kind of water you have is helpful in deciding that. Putting all the information together so you can best decide what you need rather then buying something and regretting it. Another thought is live or fake plants. I recently changed all my fake plants in for real ones. Now, had I thought a little more about the changes that kept popping into my head when I started this whole thing, I would have saved money, time and headaches. ha ha
I went to petsmart last night after work to look at their supplies. I saw a nice 36 gallon bow front that was $119. I also took a gander at their tanks, they were very clean and I believe I only saw one tank that had some issues (a few dead guppies) But the staff were cleaning the other tanks. I think I will more thank likely go with the 36 bow, I would like 3 otos, maybe some corys or some shrimp. Not sure if this will be to many bottom dwellers, so please by all means throw some answers my way. I was looking at the Bettas but they just seem to hard to please, and by please I mean I like tetras and some tend to nip. These are the only fish I have really thought about. I also want to do a planted tank this time and were looking at their plants. Is it typical to see them in a plastic cylinder? While I was at petco (which I think is not worth my time) their plants were in a tank with a few fish. I have read that the plants should be alone with no fish and then I have read some that fish help them. Anyway, I hope I can get some help with my ideas


P.S. I am in the process of reading the stickies on the aquarium plants forum
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Old 07-23-2010, 09:25 AM   #13
 
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i would go with a bigger group of either otos or corys. the corys may eat shrimp babies too?

it may be a good idea to check out craigslist.com in your area for a used tank? depending where you are you may find one in great shape
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Old 07-23-2010, 11:31 AM   #14
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The plants really shouldn't be with the fish because there is a chance if a fish is sick in there then the plant may carry the sickness over to your tank. The plant tubes are ok but be careful of what plant you get and its not mislabeled as some plants in those tubes are not suppose to be fully submerged, plus they can get kind of expensive. You might try 1 or 2 from there but if you are planning on planting your entire aquarium you might look for a place like sweet aquatics that will give you a good price on a nice bundle with really healthy plants.
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Old 07-23-2010, 04:49 PM   #15
 
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I went to petsmart last night after work to look at their supplies. I saw a nice 36 gallon bow front that was $119. I also took a gander at their tanks, they were very clean and I believe I only saw one tank that had some issues (a few dead guppies) But the staff were cleaning the other tanks. I think I will more thank likely go with the 36 bow, I would like 3 otos, maybe some corys or some shrimp. Not sure if this will be to many bottom dwellers, so please by all means throw some answers my way. I was looking at the Bettas but they just seem to hard to please, and by please I mean I like tetras and some tend to nip. These are the only fish I have really thought about. I also want to do a planted tank this time and were looking at their plants. Is it typical to see them in a plastic cylinder? While I was at petco (which I think is not worth my time) their plants were in a tank with a few fish. I have read that the plants should be alone with no fish and then I have read some that fish help them. Anyway, I hope I can get some help with my ideas


P.S. I am in the process of reading the stickies on the aquarium plants forum
I have been very happy with the plants that I purchased at Petsmart but they were not with any fish. At Petsmart they were actually in water in their own tank. I would probably not risk purchasing plants that are in with other fish at a store. Also, I was afraid to try the ones that were in the plastic containers for sale at Petco. Frankly, I avoid Petco here because besides being over priced, their tanks all had issues when I was there and even one of the sales people whispered to me to go to Petsmart. (how is that for a sales pitch?)

When you begin planning out which fish you will get (after your tank has cycled or you have it heavily planted) You will also want to make sure the the water parameters for each species of fish are compatible and that they do well with live plants. Some fish, as I am learning, eat all of your plants and others, uproot them.

I think another thing to think about is, you might want some bottom fish, some middle fish and some top swimming fish to make your aquarium appear more active. Just a thought.
Not all fish get along either. Some will happily eat your smaller fish, some just hate looking at others of their kind (as I am finding out) and will kill them for kicks. Think territorial aggression.

One other piece of advice I can give... DO NOT TRUST THE DESCRIPTIONS on the Petsmart fish tanks. Come and double check the profiles here on the forum. I bought a fish that was labeled Black, Red tail shark. It also said, it would get along with the other fish I have chosen. It turned out to be a Rainbow shark. Also, I bought 2 Leporinus that were supposed to only get 6 inches long and get along with everyone. Well, they actually can get over a foot long, they eat plants and they can become aggressive.

In other words, like a good carpenter, measure twice and cut once. For fish, research, double check and then buy. You will save yourself a lot of grief and expense.

Sorry so wordy but if someone can learn from my mistakes and I can save them and their fish from doing the same, I will. Please make sure to post pictures once you get a tank. Oh, and I think a 36 gallon sound nice.
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Old 07-23-2010, 06:19 PM   #16
 
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I have been very happy with the plants that I purchased at Petsmart but they were not with any fish. At Petsmart they were actually in water in their own tank. I would probably not risk purchasing plants that are in with other fish at a store. Also, I was afraid to try the ones that were in the plastic containers for sale at Petco. Frankly, I avoid Petco here because besides being over priced, their tanks all had issues when I was there and even one of the sales people whispered to me to go to Petsmart. (how is that for a sales pitch?)

When you begin planning out which fish you will get (after your tank has cycled or you have it heavily planted) You will also want to make sure the the water parameters for each species of fish are compatible and that they do well with live plants. Some fish, as I am learning, eat all of your plants and others, uproot them.

I think another thing to think about is, you might want some bottom fish, some middle fish and some top swimming fish to make your aquarium appear more active. Just a thought.
Not all fish get along either. Some will happily eat your smaller fish, some just hate looking at others of their kind (as I am finding out) and will kill them for kicks. Think territorial aggression.

One other piece of advice I can give... DO NOT TRUST THE DESCRIPTIONS on the Petsmart fish tanks. Come and double check the profiles here on the forum. I bought a fish that was labeled Black, Red tail shark. It also said, it would get along with the other fish I have chosen. It turned out to be a Rainbow shark. Also, I bought 2 Leporinus that were supposed to only get 6 inches long and get along with everyone. Well, they actually can get over a foot long, they eat plants and they can become aggressive.

In other words, like a good carpenter, measure twice and cut once. For fish, research, double check and then buy. You will save yourself a lot of grief and expense.

Sorry so wordy but if someone can learn from my mistakes and I can save them and their fish from doing the same, I will. Please make sure to post pictures once you get a tank. Oh, and I think a 36 gallon sound nice.
A lot of what was in my last post was cut short cause i was exhausted. I plan on getting a few of every lvl swimmer. i figured i would base my other selections off the bottom feeders, since they can get larger and they can be aggressive in nature. I know I'm gonna stay away from the Cichlids, since they tend to uproot plants. the betta is out of the question, it would be a nice show piece but i don't want his fins to get nipped. I like how the cory's look and i will probably go with 3 ottos and 3 corys. I'm still in the works of trying to find a place in the house to put the tank.
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Old 07-23-2010, 07:19 PM   #17
 
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I'm still in the works of trying to find a place in the house to put the tank.

LOL Well that definitely has to come first. It was easy for me. It was a graduation present of sorts for my dog who is no longer in need of his kennel during the day. lol The tank took up the old kennel spot.

I like Cory's and will no doubt have a few some day. Fist to re-home the Leporinus and Shark
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Old 07-24-2010, 12:10 AM   #18
 
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I like how the cory's look and i will probably go with 3 ottos and 3 corys.
Three otos are OK, but do you need them? Otos introduced to a new tank frequently die if algae is not sufficient to sustain them. They will in time accept prepared foods; mine eat and live off of sinking algae/spirulina type foods as there is insufficient algae for them. They only eat normal green algae and diatoms. If you really like them as fish, fine; but if you are thinking only for algae "control", I would not.

Corys should be in larger groups, five is a good number for each species, but if you combine species three of each will work.

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Old 07-24-2010, 07:53 PM   #19
 
Inga X2. The bigger the tank, the easier it is to take care of. More water = better dilution of toxic substances. No matter what size you decide on, you still need to decide if you want planted or not and what level of agression you want to house.
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