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post #11 of 65 Old 10-28-2012, 07:50 PM
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The ph in tank is 6.6 and the ph in the tap is 7.6...I do have a good flow in my tank with my power head and the air pump..I will find a good home for Dojo's when they get bigger.I
work at the LFS.I will make sure they find a good home.They are somewhat small now.I have my temp at 77-78..My tank has alot of plants in it that are doing great for oxygen I'm thinking?
Should I do a 5 gallon water change every day to see if that will help?
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Oxygen is not likely the issue. In any aquarium, unless it is way overstocked or something suddenly happens to the biology, oxygen will not be a problem. The gaseous exchange at the surface handles this. Fish breathing more rapidly than normal, gasping at the surface, acting listless--all these signs are almost never due to shortage of oxygen. Which is why we are asking questions, to pin point the issue.

I asked about the pH because this, like nitrates, can be a sign of something wrong. Even with all the frequent water changes you are doing, the tap pH of 7.6 is lowering quite a bit down to 6.6 in the aquarium. Has this always been the case? It would also be useful to know the GH and KH/Alkalinity of the tap water, as this is related. A too low pH for the fish species can cause the symptoms desribed. Now, here I would not expect much of an impact at 6.6 with the fish named since most are soft and slightly acidic water fish, but if this is fluctuating it could be more serious.

Which fish species are respirating faster than normal? Is this when they are at rest?

If it is the loaches, it could be oxygen and the temp may be part of it. These fish are cooler water, low 70's is sufficient.

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Its my Balloon Angel Rams,Electric Blue Rams,Gourami's and Rummy Nose Tetras.
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Its my Balloon Angel Rams,Electric Blue Rams,Gourami's and Rummy Nose Tetras.
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It would be hepful to see a video, if this is possible. I know I have in the past thought respiration was above normal, only to learn later it wasn't. Not saying there is no problem, but it can be difficult to diagnose isues.

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How do I put a video on here?
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I have seen others who upload the video to YouTube, and then just paste the link. If videos can be downloaded directly here, I don't know how.

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I tried earlier but it wouldnt work.I'm going to do a 40% water change tomorrow using Prime and Stability by Seachem and then a 5 gallon each day to see if it gets better.I'm going to rehome my Dojo's when I find them a good home:(They aren't to big right now but the water isn't below 74 either.Just want the best for them also
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post #17 of 65 Old 10-29-2012, 09:43 PM Thread Starter
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Do you think maybe I should start feeding my fish every other day instead of every day?Maybe that could be one of the problems too?
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post #18 of 65 Old 10-30-2012, 08:40 AM Thread Starter
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I did call the water company and my water is 13.2 grains and 225 PPM..Not sure what that means tho:(
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I did call the water company and my water is 13.2 grains and 225 PPM..Not sure what that means tho:(
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This needs looking into, as these numbers should prevent the pH from lowering so much. But first, which number is the GH and which the KH?

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post #20 of 65 Old 10-30-2012, 01:27 PM
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my quick read and summary of the stuff I "keyed" on.

Tank is planted

pH is 6.5

water is treated with prime.

Fish are breathing heavy and at least one has died.

Tank is less then a few months old.

my analysis:

Fish are suffocating. Low oxygen, high CO2 due to the prime treatments and not enough plants.

I would immediately add (and protect from the fish) all the anacharis I could. Oin the order of 10 bunches at the back or corners perhaps behind a partition to protect the plants.

I would stop adding food for a few days and check to see if the pH just before lights out increase. And I mean a large increase. Not just to 6.9 but to 7.5 or higher.

Then look at your fish and see if they are breathing better and more active.

my .02

maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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