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post #21 of 32 Old 11-30-2006, 08:51 AM
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if it is indeed a algae bloom..have fun...cuz these can be very tricky to get rid of...my mother had one that lasted like...2 months! LOL it was awfull...and also, water changes make it worse (if its algae). and hers didnt respond to the elimination of light....turns out her gravel bed was not deep enough...and for some reason when she doubled her gravel bed, it all went away and is now crystal clear.

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post #22 of 32 Old 11-30-2006, 09:42 AM
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OK, I'm going to reiterate llaustins question, as your condition looks very similar to what we had gone through.

Are the plants live plants?

are you providing the proper lighting/fertilizer/gravel/co2 for your plants?

Try removing the plants for 2 weeks, do a large water change, and see if your cloudy green water returns.

Check your tank nitrates before and after the water change, and your tap water nitrates.

Decaying plant matter from improperly cared for plants will boost your bacteria count and ammonia/nitrites/nitrates production on the tank. End result, rapid increase in nitrates. Algae feeds on this nitrates.

Basically, its both a bacterial bloom and an algea bloom. your tankwater goes from clear after the water change, to a milky color, then to a milky green color.

so My suggestion is, remove the live plants and store them in a QT, do a 75% water change with a thourough gravel vac (all broken off roots need to be removed from the gravel) then wait two weeks. you may also want to do another water change after the first week. If your conditions improve, then youve found your problem. The solution, either go to fake plants, or research proper care for the species of plants you have. ensure proper lighting, food and substrate.

Also note that an air pump/bubbler in the tank is a bad idea with live plants. Oxygen bubbles will carry the Co2 in the water to the surface and disperse it into the air. This will rob the plants of necessary Co2

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post #23 of 32 Old 11-30-2006, 10:02 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for all the responses! I don't think this is a bacterial bloom - I am pretty sure its algae (if you could see the tank, you would too). I just order the 9w sterilizer:

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...&N=2004+113778

This is supposed to take care of algae by destroying the cells so they bind together and get trapped in the filter. My lights are currently on for 12 hours a day so I may shorten that some. I will let you know how the sterilizer works out!

90gal: 2x Tangerine Discus, 2x Clown Pleco, 2x Catfish.
75gal + 10gal sump: 2x Large Goldfish, 1x Common Pleco, 14x Leopard Danios
55gal: 5x Angelfish, 1x Common Pleco, 8x SIlver Tip Tetras, 16x Neon Tetras, 8x Albino Corys
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post #24 of 32 Old 12-01-2006, 09:57 PM Thread Starter
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So I just got back from a business trip (overnight) in Philla. and the tank is completly green! It's pretty awesome. Did a ~40% water change and will continue to do so until the UV sterilizer arrives on Tuesday. Hopefully it will do what it is supposed to do. The fish seem fine though.

90gal: 2x Tangerine Discus, 2x Clown Pleco, 2x Catfish.
75gal + 10gal sump: 2x Large Goldfish, 1x Common Pleco, 14x Leopard Danios
55gal: 5x Angelfish, 1x Common Pleco, 8x SIlver Tip Tetras, 16x Neon Tetras, 8x Albino Corys
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post #25 of 32 Old 12-04-2006, 10:09 PM Thread Starter
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installed the uv sterilizer this evening, cross your fingers. will report back!

90gal: 2x Tangerine Discus, 2x Clown Pleco, 2x Catfish.
75gal + 10gal sump: 2x Large Goldfish, 1x Common Pleco, 14x Leopard Danios
55gal: 5x Angelfish, 1x Common Pleco, 8x SIlver Tip Tetras, 16x Neon Tetras, 8x Albino Corys
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post #26 of 32 Old 12-08-2006, 06:08 PM Thread Starter
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I have great news to report! I installed the UV Sterilizer on Monday evening, it is now Friday evening and what a difference!

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You now literally can not tell that there is water in the tank (other than the happy, swimming fishies)! If you don't have one of these, get one!

90gal: 2x Tangerine Discus, 2x Clown Pleco, 2x Catfish.
75gal + 10gal sump: 2x Large Goldfish, 1x Common Pleco, 14x Leopard Danios
55gal: 5x Angelfish, 1x Common Pleco, 8x SIlver Tip Tetras, 16x Neon Tetras, 8x Albino Corys
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post #27 of 32 Old 12-08-2006, 06:22 PM
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Great Jsm! So glad it worked out for you. Keep us posted on the long term results. If you dont mind me asking, where did you get the UV, what brand is it, and how much did it run you?

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post #28 of 32 Old 12-08-2006, 06:26 PM Thread Starter
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Not at all, I got the 9w Turbo Twist (http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Produc...&N=2004+113778) for $80 + s/h. Best fishy investment so far!

90gal: 2x Tangerine Discus, 2x Clown Pleco, 2x Catfish.
75gal + 10gal sump: 2x Large Goldfish, 1x Common Pleco, 14x Leopard Danios
55gal: 5x Angelfish, 1x Common Pleco, 8x SIlver Tip Tetras, 16x Neon Tetras, 8x Albino Corys
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post #29 of 32 Old 12-10-2006, 05:10 AM
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A bacterial bloom can give the green appearance to water when it's removed from the tank just as can an algae bloom. From your photo, it appears to be a bacterial bloom, and from reading this thread from start to finish, I still say bacterial bloom. The best thing for you to do to fix it.... STOP doing the water changes and give it a chance to clear up on its own. There is no treatment for such a thing other than time for it to stabalize. If you feel you must do water changes, then do SMALL ones, no more than 10% every day to every other day. With your water quality reading 0 for everything, algae bloom wouldn't make sense because it would have nothing to feed on. So, either your test results are inaccurate, or you're dealing with bacterial bloom that will clear once you let it be. Bacterial blooms will not hurt the fish so long as the water quality is good. Ease up on feedings, make sure only once every other day and what the fish can completely finish within one minute. With 0 everything for water quality, your tank will cycle again, which the fish may or may not be sensitive to. You'll want to keep a close eye on your water quality readings for a little while, until you know the tank is safely cycled again. If you keep doing large and frequent water changes, it may never clear up.

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post #30 of 32 Old 12-10-2006, 10:10 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for that info! My water is crystal clear now (thanks to the UV Sterilizer) and I did stop doing water changes (haven't done one in maybe 5 days). I will test it again tonight and maybe to a water change since the bloom is gone. My tank never cycled, it has a bunch on plants in there and I never picked up readings for ammonia, nitrite nitrate. It has been running for over 2 months now. Also, on an unrelated note, as soon as the water became clear and the bloom was gone, one of my plant groups (don't remember the species) shot up a couple inches in one day!

90gal: 2x Tangerine Discus, 2x Clown Pleco, 2x Catfish.
75gal + 10gal sump: 2x Large Goldfish, 1x Common Pleco, 14x Leopard Danios
55gal: 5x Angelfish, 1x Common Pleco, 8x SIlver Tip Tetras, 16x Neon Tetras, 8x Albino Corys
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