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post #1 of 12 Old 12-01-2009, 08:59 PM Thread Starter
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When doing a fishless cycle can you use ammonia and filter media?

I started using drops of ammonia to do a fishless cycle and then found someone willing to give me her old filter and some live plants tomorrow. Do I use all 3 (ammonia, old filter media, live plants) or a different combination?
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post #2 of 12 Old 12-01-2009, 09:20 PM
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If you get old used filter media added to your filter and put plants in, you're set. Let that run for a day or two, check your water parameters and start stocking, no ammonia needed.
Using used filter media is actually the safest & fasted way for new tanks!

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post #3 of 12 Old 12-01-2009, 10:28 PM Thread Starter
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Everything I'm finding says you still need to add ammonia. I dont want to add ANY fish until the cycle is complete.
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post #4 of 12 Old 12-01-2009, 10:50 PM Thread Starter
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post #5 of 12 Old 12-02-2009, 01:41 AM
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If you are not going to add one or two fish,then yes you will need to add a couple drops of ammonia every other day to keep the bacteria (good kind) from borrowed material alive.
Must either be fish ,to produce ammonia through waste,or drops of ammonia.
Should you decide to use fish (one or two),, then I would do sizeable water change to remove the ammonia you have been adding. Then test the water a couple hours later for ammonia. If you get zero for ammonia,then you can add one or two small fish and they will then become source of ammonia for the bacteria in the borrowed filter material to feed on.
Is important to keep the borrowed filter material wet in aquarium water (NOT TAPWATER) while transporting it to your tank. Once fish or fishes have been added,feed sparingly and test the water each day to ensure that ammonia and nitrites do not become toxic. This should not happen if bacterial colony on filter material you borrowed stays wet and is moved quickly(within a few hours) from your friends tank to yours.
When ammonia and nitrites read zero and you detect NITRATES, then weekly water changes each week and not overfeeding or overstocking,,will provide you and your fish with many hours ,days,months,of enjoyment.

If you wish to wait until tank has matured before placing the fish in the tank, then once the borrowed material is placed in your tank, continue to add a couple drops of ammonia each day ,or every other day ,until ammonia and nitrites read zero, and NITRATES appear. Then do 70 to 80 percent water change using dechlorinator for new water .and add fish (not too many). Good Luck!

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post #6 of 12 Old 12-02-2009, 06:52 AM
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Just curious here...but if you're getting the needed filter media (bacteria), why do you NOT want to add fish now that you can?

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post #7 of 12 Old 12-02-2009, 08:54 AM Thread Starter
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Because I want the tank to be fully cycled first, didnt I say that already?
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post #8 of 12 Old 12-02-2009, 09:02 AM
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the tank will be fully cycled once you start using the old filter and plants, just make sure they stay wet during transfer.

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post #9 of 12 Old 12-02-2009, 09:43 AM
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Because I want the tank to be fully cycled first, didnt I say that already?
That's why I explained up top that reusing old filter media is the safest & quickest way for doing that

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post #10 of 12 Old 12-03-2009, 12:52 PM Thread Starter
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Just did a test, dont have any Nitrates or Nitire, so not cycled yet.
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