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Old 03-17-2011, 04:51 AM   #1
 
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What will there babys look like?

so as some of you know my angels have had an sucessfull spawn was wondering what these to beautys babys would look like when they get older?

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Old 03-17-2011, 01:57 PM   #2
 
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Hmmm, I don't know anything about angelfish genetics, but I'd bet you'll get some attractive variations in the offspring! Is there a dominant color in angelfish? Anyone know if angelfish color is a multiple-gene trait? I'd bet, seeing all the colors and patterns in angels, that more than a couple of genes are involved.

Oh, and congrats
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:59 PM   #3
 
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Okay, so assuming that Parent A is a Black angelfish(not black lace) and Parent B is a Gold Marble Angelfish (not Gold Marble Pearlscale, or Gold).... The "official" probabilities are that their is a 2/3 chance that all the offspring will look Black, and a 1/3 chance that half would be black, and the other half would be Gold Marble. Although, from what I've seen, I doubt that Parent A is heterozygous for the Dark allele (D/GM) so I would count on your offspring being black. If you know what Parent A's parents were, and one was a Gold Marble Angelfish (The other being a Black Angelfish) then we could be 100% positive that half offspring would be Gold Marbled. Hope that helped
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Old 03-17-2011, 06:01 PM   #4
 
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Hmmm, I don't know anything about angelfish genetics, but I'd bet you'll get some attractive variations in the offspring! Is there a dominant color in angelfish? Anyone know if angelfish color is a multiple-gene trait? I'd bet, seeing all the colors and patterns in angels, that more than a couple of genes are involved.

Oh, and congrats
The D trait that the black parent shows is dominant over the GM trait that the other parent shows, and it is not a multiple-gene trait. No co-dominance or incomplete dominance is shown either.
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Old 03-17-2011, 06:49 PM   #5
 
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The D trait that the black parent shows is dominant over the GM trait that the other parent shows, and it is not a multiple-gene trait. No co-dominance or incomplete dominance is shown either.
Hmmm. Without getting too deep into the angelfish genetics, and not diverting too far from Plumkin's original posted question (sorry): What influences the marbling and the "calico" color variations if black shows complete dominance? If no one wants to answer this, no sweat, I'll do some research on my end!
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:16 PM   #6
 
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Hmmm. Without getting too deep into the angelfish genetics, and not diverting too far from Plumkin's original posted question (sorry): What influences the marbling and the "calico" color variations if black shows complete dominance? If no one wants to answer this, no sweat, I'll do some research on my end!
The dark, marble, gold marble, and gold traits are on the same locus. Marbling does not happen because of the dark allele, it was probably some mutation from the original wild allele? The marbling allele is recessive to the Dark allele but is completely dominant over gold marble and gold. Both the Dark alleles and the marble alleles are co-dominant to the wild allele.

EDIT: Did a little research and have confirmed that the Marbled allele is a mutation from the Wild allele....

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Old 03-17-2011, 09:18 PM   #7
 
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Thanks - concise and easy to follow info, I appreciate it. I'll quit diverting this post now
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