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post #21 of 29 Old 03-17-2012, 03:36 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, could I put the SDs in a 25long?

Ok if the SDs are out, can I get 8 angels?

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post #22 of 29 Old 03-17-2012, 06:48 PM
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Ok, could I put the SDs in a 25long?

Ok if the SDs are out, can I get 8 angels?
If this is still a 150 gallon, presumably 6 feet or longer, yes, 8 angels. I would do 7 rather than 8, I think with larger fish an odd number looks better.

I would not do SD in anything under 4 feet, so a 55g tank is minimum. They attain 6 inches (same as the angelfish) and a decent group of 7 in a 4-foot would work.

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post #23 of 29 Old 03-18-2012, 08:05 AM Thread Starter
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I think I am going to to keep the SD's with them.

The tank will be 107gals, 150cm long,60cm in with and 45cm hi.

My stoking is as follow, 5 angels,5 SD,1 pleco and the ghost.
Is there space for more fish?

I will get allot of plants that I will keep in a 7gal,and as the SD's eat them I'll put new ones in.

Substrate will be sand.

Decor will be all the wood form the existing tank and more new wood ,plants and some rocks.
I am going for a amazon biotope tank.
I like the yellow in the water from the wood.

Water changes will be 30% at first when they are young,then 40% wen they are older.

I really want the SDs in the tank.

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If you are building this tank yourself, then I would HIGHLY recommend you go for 9-10mm glass. Are you doing an all glass build or a plywood tank?
If you are doing all glass, then it would be recommended to get a piece of tempered glass for the bottom only.

There is a lot of work in constructing a tank yourself and you have got to have the right tools to start off with.

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I think I am going to to keep the SD's with them.

The tank will be 107gals, 150cm long,60cm in with and 45cm hi.

My stoking is as follow, 5 angels,5 SD,1 pleco and the ghost.
Is there space for more fish?

I will get allot of plants that I will keep in a 7gal,and as the SD's eat them I'll put new ones in.

Substrate will be sand.

Decor will be all the wood form the existing tank and more new wood ,plants and some rocks.
I am going for a amazon biotope tank.
I like the yellow in the water from the wood.

Water changes will be 30% at first when they are young,then 40% wen they are older.

I really want the SDs in the tank.
That tank does not have space for 5 angels and 5 SD and it is not anywhere near sufficient for a BGK. Suit yourself. But you must (or should) consider the fish's needs and health, not your wants. As must we all when building a community fish aquarium.

For the BGK I recommend a 6-foot tank. I was reading an article only yesterday (which I posted in another thread) on this fish where the author said nothing less than a 10-foot tank will suit this fish.

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post #26 of 29 Old 03-18-2012, 12:13 PM Thread Starter
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I have read a report that people had 3 in a 500liter tank and they bred 2 times.I am not saying your wrong but I don't think you'd need a 10-foot tank for the ghost.

Tomorrow I am calling a pet shop to see if they have a big tank.

I am still not sure if I am building the tank or buying it.

What about 3 angel,5 SD,the pleco, and the ghost?

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post #27 of 29 Old 03-18-2012, 12:38 PM
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Nicolaas, all I can say is, that some people will keep a huge dog in a wire cage in the backyard, and the dog will "live" if you can call it that. But this doesn't mean it is the best thing to do, nor that it should be tried. Providing fish with the best environment we can should be our prime goal in this hobby; these are living creatures and they have inherent requirements that nature programmed into them.

Here's the thread with the article on the knifefish; I'm not saying it needs a 10-foot tank, I still say a 6-foot is minimum. The point is that it needs space and has other requirements.
Knifefish Facts

In the words of that author, "Be wary of retailers who claim that this fish will be fine in a 120cm/48” aquarium, as this will lead to stunting and premature death."

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post #29 of 29 Old 03-18-2012, 09:15 PM
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Let me tell you from experience, if you can't provide at least the minimum requirements for the fish, You're better off to think of a different stocking that would suit you. As byron said, putting a dog in a cage were he can run around is tolerable, but not preferable.
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