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Old 04-29-2012, 06:49 PM   #31
 
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Mine are like that or worse. Fine. They trap dirt, that's mechanical filtration and the sole reason for a filter in planted tanks. My Rena XP3 on the 115g clogs up after about 5-6 weeks, whereas the Eheims on the 90g and 70g usually go 4-6 months.

You know, it is interesting how things change as we learn more. For many decades we were taught to clean the filters, have sparkling water, vacuum every particle out of the substrate, use carbon and various chemicals to maintain water so clean you could almost drink it... now we know this is going in the wrong direction. "Dirt" is actually healthier, up to a point of course. The multitude of bacteria living in the substrate and filter are there for a reason.
Thank you.... I was starting to worry. I do think its possible that I am over feeding slightly, but I also think a lot of that brown sludge comes from the decaying plant matter, and whenever the substrate is disturbed it silts up no end, so all that is going in too...

Whats your opinion on that larvae Byron? think were right about it being damselfly larvae? freaked me right out! little bugger.
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:54 PM   #32
 
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Thank you.... I was starting to worry. I do think its possible that I am over feeding slightly, but I also think a lot of that brown sludge comes from the decaying plant matter, and whenever the substrate is disturbed it silts up no end, so all that is going in too...

Whats your opinion on that larvae Byron? think were right about it being damselfly larvae? freaked me right out! little bugger.
Yes, I would suggest it is some species of insect larvae, but I don't know my larvae so can't say which species.
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:17 PM   #33
 
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Thank you.... I was starting to worry. I do think its possible that I am over feeding slightly, but I also think a lot of that brown sludge comes from the decaying plant matter, and whenever the substrate is disturbed it silts up no end, so all that is going in too...

Whats your opinion on that larvae Byron? think were right about it being damselfly larvae? freaked me right out! little bugger.
Had the same thing (actually 2) in my shrimp tank. I let them be, and found one dead on the cord outside the tank. No idea what happened to the other. Yes, they are damselfly larva. Won't cause harm, but assume the eggs get on plants and that is how they arrive in tank.

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Old 04-29-2012, 07:29 PM   #34
 
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Had the same thing (actually 2) in my shrimp tank. I let them be, and found one dead on the cord outside the tank. No idea what happened to the other. Yes, they are damselfly larva. Won't cause harm, but assume the eggs get on plants and that is how they arrive in tank.

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well at least I know my filter will suck em in! they can stay there until I remove the pad.. I purchased some dwarf water lettuce from somewhere on ebay, had it posted to me. there was only a few small plants. but have no idea where they came from, or the quality of the water etc. so it is possible the eggs were on them? I did soak them for a while before adding to my tank.

My other plants I have added recently came from a really high quality retailer, I doubt the beast came from there? but who knows. as long as I am not going to be plagued I don't really care.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:44 AM   #35
 
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i had fish fry in my filter once,i couldn't believe my eyes !
occasional snail now and then is about it,next water change my
filter is due an overhaul so i'll take some piccies
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:17 AM   #36
 
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You know, it is interesting how things change as we learn more. For many decades we were taught to clean the filters, have sparkling water, vacuum every particle out of the substrate, use carbon and various chemicals to maintain water so clean you could almost drink it... now we know this is going in the wrong direction. "Dirt" is actually healthier, up to a point of course. The multitude of bacteria living in the substrate and filter are there for a reason. .
Agreed completely. I leave my pad in my filter much longer then I used to and I don't do much with the substrate as I have so many plants I couldn't get to much of it even if I wanted to. I do still like the water so clean that I could drink it (not that I would even think about it) but that is simply through larger and more frequent water changes.


Rhymon78 No worries. Your filter Pad isn't the only one that has ever looked like that. In one of my tanks, the pad gets yucky pretty fast. I agree that it is all the plant waste as well as the over feeding. In that tank, I was over feeding for awhile to make sure the lower inhabitants got plenty. As a result the filter pad needs more frequent cleaning.

Also, I recently had an alien in my tank as well. You may have read the thread. Mine looked more like an Earth worm but it freaked me out just as much. Ick! I have to say, yours was sort of cute, in an alien way. I wouldn't have wanted it in my tank though. Glad you got rid of it.

On that note: I think I will change my filter pad today. ha ha

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Old 04-30-2012, 08:16 AM   #37
 
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Thank you, to be honest those pads I use are so thin, and you couldn't see in the video but that brown sludge was literally just the very top layer, it's just particles that kick up off of the substrate when Im planting or moving stuff, which I have done a lot of in the last couple of days!! I do feed frozen daphnia almost every day as I too want to make sure the corys and loaches have enough to eat. The thawed daphnia settles on the bottom but I bet a ton of it gets drawn into the filter too. I'm sure that's part of the dirty Pads. Those things get changed at the very least once weekly. Otherwise the filter gets clogged up and I notice the return stream is weakened. So I change again.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:22 AM   #38
 
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One thing that has saved me now is that I am feeding sinking pellets. They drop right down and I can put them in further away from the filter. I think that helps a lot. Also, they cories swarm the pellets and nobody else can grab them off before they get a chance at some of them.
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Old 04-30-2012, 09:02 AM   #39
 
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Interesting find =) If it had stayed in the tank instead of the filter, your fish may have gotten a nice snack before it got too big ;) Bug larvae is one of their natural foods after all. The dwarf water lettuce may have come from a pond, I think it's normally a pond plant but can be grown in the aquarium since it stays small.

In my small tanks the pad gets nasty fast. Not too bad in a week, but in a month they look just awful. I'm trying something new, I put a pre-filter sponge on the intake and I've also switched to buying a huge sheet of filter material that I just cut to size instead of using the ultra thin garbage ones for the HOB. The stuff I got is about 4 times ticker, so hopefully ...

In the canister on my new 125g I put in the Fluval Pre-Filter ceramic rings to hopefully have the pads from heavy amounts of debris.

Inga, I have sinking shrimp pellets for my Corys too. Along with small algae waffers. They do love them don't they? In my tank with Serpae Tetra they'll go after them though if they see them and in the Betta tank, the betta will eat them o.O I've switched to adding them after the lights go out and no more trouble with that.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:01 AM   #40
 
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i had fish fry in my filter once,i couldn't believe my eyes !
occasional snail now and then is about it,next water change my
filter is due an overhaul so i'll take some piccies
I had a cory fry in my canister when I cleaned it about 7 weeks ago, first time though I have often thought this could happen. I netted it out, put it in the 10g to grow a bit, and now he is back in the 115g with the others. Corydoras duplicareus. I spotted two more in the tank this week. Snails, probably 70-100 in the canisters.
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