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What Filter Should I Get!?!?
Old 12-05-2011, 07:50 PM   #11
 
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Well i decided to just stick to Tetra Whisper Classic.
I'm pretty sure what AquaClears just do is just the foam pad insert
So what I'm going to do is buy the foam pad insert cut it to size and shove it in
I'm pretty sure that's what keeps the water "CRYSTAL CLEAR"
Hoping it works. If not will just do the AquaClear change
Thanks everyone!
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Old 12-05-2011, 07:51 PM   #12
 
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Though..Not sure what the Foam pad dimensions are.
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:35 PM   #13
 
Its filter floss that 'polishes' the water not really porous sponges. Sponges are really only good at catching particles bigger then their pores. That why in cansiters the water flows through really porous sponges then works its way to floss. If you use just floss a filter clogs quickly because all the debris is getting trapped in the same spot.

With regards to the ceramics in the aquaclear. I would not get rid of those. The carbon yes, but not the ceramics.
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:47 PM   #14
 
Yep, the sponge material in filters is very porous. It is very good at catching large particulates where they break down AND providing a platform for beneficial bacteria, but you really do need filter floss as the last step to remove tiny particles and as Mikaila points out 'polish' the water. Also, you will be missing the bio-max or any kind of ceramic bio-media. I think the Whisper is a bad choice - sorry.
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:49 PM   #15
 
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I've never ran the rings in my AC's and never have an issue with parameters. I'd rather have two sponges to catch more debris. Two sponges IMO provide more than enough area for the needed bacteria unless you have a very heavily stocked tank and then I'd be running two filters with 4 sponges so then I'd still have enough surface area.
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:25 PM   #16
 
For what it is worth I also give a nod to the Aquaclear.

I run one with my current tank and it's a little work-horse. Key thing though is know ahead of time what you plan to put into your tank. The last thing you want is a filter that is under the load of what you need being filtered.

I've got a 50 gallon but I went with a 70 for that little bit of extra. Look at what your tank size is and try to budget to get one that handles slightly more. Or if you know you will be stocking heavy, or you will have fish that are known to be messy eaters and create lots of waste go even higher.

Also tetra filters are some of the worst things I've ever worked with. They are okay for a temp set up but long term get something that's more reliable. Spend the money now and you'll thanks yourself later.
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Old 12-06-2011, 12:27 AM   #17
 
You could run a single 'bottom' sponge in the aquaclear and even then biological filtration isn't going to be overly effected. Running two AC sponges if they are the exact same is no more efficient at collecting particles then running a single sponge. Basically everything that can get caught will get caught in the first sponge. Only if the second sponge has a smaller pore size will it aid in removing debris. One thing that bothers me is aquaclear doesn't tell you the pore size of those sponges. However since I have some AC sponges in my Rena canister I'm fairly confident they are coarse sponges. Either the same or coarser then my coarsest sponge . I say this because they are in the 2nd filter block, after the initial sponges and ceramics. They don't catch crap where they are lol. The rena canister comes with 4 different sponges that in the end look EXACTLY the same. However there are actually 2 different types. 2 sponges have 20ppi(pores per inch) and the other 2 have 30ppi. The 20ppi is the very first filter media , directly followed by the 30ppi. All these get REALLY dirty.

The exact AC sponges I have are for an AC 20, there are 3 of them. To put in perspective the media capacity of a canister filter. All together they occupy less then 1/6 of the space inside my rena.

I agree with sanguinefox, all the whispers I have seen or had the unfortunate experience of preforming maintenance were pretty terrible filters. No staging so they clog easily, really low media capacity if they are used unmodified. The 'power filters' are junk IMO. Only use I've ever gotten out of whispers are their ugly 'in tank i series'. Unlike the other they have submersible pumps. When ever a used one of these ends up in my place it gets salvaged. Take it all apart, get the the pump out, rest can go in trash lol. That pump is essentially a powerhead, it even has the holes for suction cups on it. As long as it doesn't constantly seize up it can live a much better life free from the filter lol.
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Old 12-07-2011, 04:35 PM   #18
 
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55 gal
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Old 12-07-2011, 04:37 PM   #19
 
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An AquaClear is an AquaClear. There are different sizes but they all look the same and there is only one model. This link will show you what they look like.

Hagen Aqua Clear Power Filters

What size tank will this be for?
55 gal
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Old 12-07-2011, 06:00 PM   #20
 
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I'd get the AC 110 if you decide to go with AquaClear now or in the future.
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