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Old 01-05-2013, 12:32 AM   #131
 
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Great news that your enjoying the tank!!!

I ran the above fish through aqadvisor for you using a tetra whisper 30 as your filter and guessed your tank dimensions at approx 24 x 16 x 12...works out at 20 gallons.

Then added 2 dwarf gouramis, 6 kuhli loaches and 6 flame tetra..... couldn't find the green bit... are they a bred colour anyone etc so about the same as hyphessobrycon flammeus???

If so, and this is just a guide, rates your tank at 66% full with no compatibility issues..... however this is a computer programme and I'd opt to listen to people here about issues than that, but is a good 'guide' to stocking options, just not 100% fool proof.

I have 2 male neon blue dwarf gouramis and love them, always on show, not scared of anything nowadays and always come to see me in a smaller tank I'd say a male and female would be better so hopefully they will pair up


Also...mumphert!?! If he'd of found out about that he'd be sat in a corner sulking! With Mr Fish, he's a Boss! Haha

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Old 01-05-2013, 12:46 AM   #132
 
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Ahhh nevermind about the tetra Q I was looking for fire green tetra, found them as green fire tetra and out them in. Your capacity is now 67%. Rest of last post stands. Lol
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Old 01-05-2013, 01:01 AM   #133
 
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lol! Lovin the name. That's Mr. Fish to you!

Kulhi Loaches will be fine. Not farmiliar with Fire Green Tetras (other than that all tetra are schooling and you will need 5+ to keep them from being fin nippers). The Gourami might be a risky addition with a Betta. Lots of horror stories out there about them attacking Bettas, especially if the Betta is a male! You might want to research that one a bit more :-/
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Old 01-05-2013, 01:03 AM   #134
 
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yeah. people dont recommend gourami with bettas, because they are fellow anabantids, and both pretty territorial.
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Old 01-05-2013, 01:05 AM   #135
 
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Oh I forgot to add in Mr Fish!

Including him.....

Your aquarium filtration capacity is satisfactory.
Your aquarium filtration capacity for above selected species is*100%.
Recommended water change schedule:*29%*per week.
Your aquarium stocking level is 71%.


Warning:*Betta [Male]*is not recommended to be with*Dwarf Gourami*- further research is highly recommended.

Though all this bas now been covered

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Old 01-05-2013, 06:50 AM   #136
 
Thanks Nilet, BlueWind and djembekah- much appreciated.

Yea the dwarft gourami's would be a risk ...kind of like the green fire tetras too IMO. If we do decide on them, we'll be taking MR. Fish out for a few, changing around a few thing and then adding him back after. We'll do that with each new species but the dwarf gourami would be laSt added. I guess we'll see. Still looking ...

And yes, Nilet those are the right dimensions. They were mentioned somewhere in here before but this became such a long thread I have no idea where...
Sorry about misnaming the fish- green fire tetras is the name not fire green..hehe

Aquadvisor is a good site (I used it) but some of the mixes that could work, the give a warning about. I guess it all depends on individual fish.

Planning to change some of the tank water (like 20%) and do another testing. It's still cloudy going on day 3 now.
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:51 AM   #137
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His name is MR. FISH.... Original right?
.... and they called him MISTER FISH. Nobody messed with him.

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Old 01-05-2013, 11:37 AM   #138
 
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Hopefully it will clear up on its own.

The betta is doing great! He's got such a personality. He dances around, watches us and is super active. His name is MR. FISH.... Original right? My husband wanted to name him Mumphert.
As far as tank mates we're still thinking.
We like kulhi loaches, fire green tetras and dwarf gourami. Not sure how that's going to work but we have time to think about it.
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This thread is long enough that I can't remember what I may or may not have posted. But you have some issues in this planned stocking.

Betta are not community fish. I know some will say they have a Betta in with this or that and all's well, fine; individual fish may sometimes work, at least for a time. But all the pros who know will tell you what I maintain, Betta should be on their own.

This works two ways. Betta may decide that small fish are food; I had a beautiful Betta who ate neons easily. And othertimes the Betta will target bright fish as rivals. But there is also the reverse. Betta are sedate fish with flowing fins; to any characins (tetra, pencilfish) who have lots of teeth, this is like waving a red flag in front of a bull. Fin nipping is almost certain to occur.

In both of these cases, severe stress occurs to the targeted fish, even if no physical damage occurs.

Gourami and Betta do not mix because they are both territorial, as someone mentioned.

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Old 01-05-2013, 01:09 PM   #139
 
In all honestly I am feeling fed up with the tank. My husband says he never expected it to be so much work- I told him if he can find someone -sell it! I just can't deal. I tested the ammonia this am and it was 1. The water still cloudy. Changed 50% of the water. Our puppy "helped", checked after- still 1. Water is still cloudy and two plants are dead.
I removed them but I just can't see this being something I want to do every weekend and I know he doesn't. It's his tank thoug! Sorry guys. Just feeling overwhelmed. Posted via Mobile Device

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Old 01-05-2013, 01:20 PM   #140
 
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In all honestly I am feeling fed up with the tank. My husband says he never expected it to be so much work- I told him if he can find someone -sell it! I just can't deal. I tested the ammonia this am and it was 1. The water still cloudy. Changed 50% of the water. Our puppy "helped", checked after- still 1. Water is still cloudy and two plants are dead.
I removed them but I just can't see this being something I want to do every weekend and I know he doesn't. It's his tank thoug! Sorry guys. Just feeling overwhelmed. Posted via Mobile Device
I understand the frustration, I have been there. I have had fish tanks for over 20 years, and currently have 7 running. I still see problems.

One thing to accept is that we are dealing with a very closed aquatic system, and there are many factors at work. Once an aquarium is established, things tend to remain stable. But getting to that point depends upon many things that interact.

First, remember that cloudiness is not a problem. It looks unsightly, but it will clear. I have had new tanks remain somewhat cloudy for several months, while others clear in a few days. It is almost certainly a bacterial issue, and it takes time to establish all this.

Ammonia at 1. Have you tested the tap water on its own for ammonia? Is there just the one fish in the tank now? What plants are dead (this is likely the cause of the ammonia if the tap water is zero)?

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