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post #11 of 14 Old 06-23-2011, 08:03 PM
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If you don't have any fish in currently, leave the water as is and keep the filter running. You'll eventually (as the tank cycles) start to get bacteria that will break down the ammonia and other stuff. It won't hurt to have ammonia in the tank while there aren't any fish.

Patience is the key to success, but the waiting really stinks....
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post #12 of 14 Old 06-24-2011, 07:03 AM
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Correct DKRST ! The only things that happen fast in fish tanks are bad things!!! (except maybe the emergency water change... ) Take is slow!

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post #13 of 14 Old 06-30-2011, 10:35 PM Thread Starter
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Chloramine safe for fish???

Since this is my thread I figured I'd toss this here: I read today on a website that chloramine is good for the aquarium because it seems to prevent the growth of bad things in the tank as well, as long as only a 20% water change is done. Any more than 20% would be harmful. Could that be true? Are companies selling us useless conditioners?
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Many animals are sensitive to chloramine and it must be removed from water given to many animals in zoos. Aquarium owners remove the chloramine from their tap water because it is toxic to fish. Aging the water for a few days removes chlorine but not the more stable chloramine, which can be neutralised using products available at pet stores.

Chloramine must also be removed from the water prior to use in kidney dialysis machines, as it would come in contact with the bloodstream across a permeable membrane. However, since chloramine is neutralized by the digestive process, kidney dialysis patients can still safely drink chloramine-treated water.

There is also evidence that exposure to chloramine can contribute to respiratory problems, including asthma, among swimmers.[7] Respiratory problems related to chloramine exposure are common and prevalent among competitive swimmers.[8]

Here are a few paragraphs from the wiki page on chloromine. As you can see even in humans it must be removed from the water during dialysis, to avoid contact with the bloodstream through "permeable membrane".
A fish's "skin" is exactly that, a permeable membrane. It would go through the skin and into the bloodstream and finally death.

Also if it can cause respitory illness in swimmers, whats it going to do to fish that are much smaller and spend 24/7 in water.
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