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post #11 of 36 Old 06-23-2008, 01:21 PM
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Know people who would kill for the PH values you posted. You may wish to test Ph of tapwater after it has set overnight in bucket. That test result will be your PH. Any adjusting you do to PH will have to be done for each water change. That is why most recommend not to mess with it. Fish will adapt to PH values as long as that PH remains stable. If you wish to keep african cichlids that are more comfortable with higher PH values then there are substrates and rock that can be added to achieve the PH more comfortable for them otherwise messing with PH in my view usually causes more harm than good.

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post #12 of 36 Old 06-23-2008, 03:26 PM Thread Starter
dang, and i really wanted those snails! :( . Any other fish that dont mind that ph and eats algae?

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post #13 of 36 Old 06-23-2008, 06:09 PM
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What's wrong with adding snails? As long as your GH isn't too low most snails should do fine in that pH.
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post #14 of 36 Old 06-23-2008, 08:38 PM Thread Starter
I read on applesnails.net , that over time, Ph less than 7 will gradually wear down the snails shell.

If snails dont work, I'll just work with glass shrimp

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post #15 of 36 Old 06-24-2008, 03:48 AM
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I believe I read in previous post where you had plants? Apple snails are adept at eating plants. Maybe there is calcium enriched food that snails could eat as well as fish?

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post #16 of 36 Old 06-24-2008, 01:29 PM Thread Starter
either way, I found out that the ferts im using in the tank contains .0005% copper :(

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post #17 of 36 Old 06-24-2008, 04:22 PM
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...What? How did you find that out, just reading the ingredients? Did it say anywhere on the packaging that it's safe to use for fish and other aquatic animals? IMO they shouldn't be able to sell a product like that without advertising somewhere on the packaging that it's not safe for inverts.

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post #18 of 36 Old 06-24-2008, 07:17 PM Thread Starter
it doesnt say anywhere of it being dangerous to fish. As a matter a fact, I bought the 1 fl oz version (the smallest bottle). the larger bottle ( exactly the same as the smaller one Im using) says safe for fish. The smaller bottle, the one im using, doesnt say. The back of the bottle says in the ingredients .0005% copper. Yet no where on the bottle does it say "safe" or "not safe" for fish. Only the larger bottle version does

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post #19 of 36 Old 06-24-2008, 07:37 PM
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That's perfectly "fish safe" it just might not be "invert safe". Copper is an essential trace element, the key word being TRACE.

In fact, a lot of aquarium products use small amounts of copper. I believe New Life Spectrum brand food uses copper sulfate as an ingredient. I've heard warnings from shrimp keepers about using it.
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post #20 of 36 Old 06-24-2008, 07:45 PM Thread Starter
I looked again and the larger bottle actually does say safe for fish and other aquatic creatures

http://www.petco.com/product/13587/H...ertilizer.aspx

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