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water getting very dirty?
Old 03-17-2012, 12:58 PM   #21
 
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New 55 too

I'm starting up a new 55 very shortly. Plan to have a base of rooted plants and fast growing stem plants. Good luck on your projects.
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Old 03-17-2012, 12:58 PM   #22
 
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I'm in agreement with AbbeysDad. But I have a couple additional comments.

Filter cleaning. I always have cloudiness for a day--maybe even up to two weeks, depending upon which tank--after I clean the filter. So I wouldn't worry about this. It is usually a bacterial bloom, so the water gets more hazy than having visible particles.

Substrate. With substrate-rooted plants, this should be left alone. I never see "stuff" on the substrate or in the water, except during feeding when the corys and loaches are digging around the sand/gravel. This is normal. But, if it is bothering you, you can run the siphon across the surface to pick up the loose debris, during the water change. I do this in one or two tanks for specific reasons, but not in the other 5.

Water change should be weekly, and more, as noted. I would say in your case a 50% change would be best. A "Python" will make this easier than buckets.
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Old 03-17-2012, 01:54 PM   #23
 
Would it help if I added a second foam insert into my filter? I'am not running any carbon so I have the room, right now I have just the foam and the biomax inserts.
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:24 PM   #24
 
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I was speaking about true visible crap on your filter media. Other than that, the water change advice is the best to follow. For a short time, the bacteria bloom is a good thing, but it should fade within a day or two. Wish I could be more precise, but all else failing...water change, water change. jmo
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Old 03-17-2012, 02:28 PM   #25
 
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Without being there to actually see the tank water, we are covering a lot of possibles, and resolution varies depending what the actual issue is. If this is visible particles in the water, more foam/pads/floss/sponge in the filter(s) will help, plus identifying the source, and water changes would likely remove more. If this is a bacterial bloom (more just a fog or haze) then leaving it alone is the only thing to do; more water changes will worsen this as it simply increases the bacteria to feed on the organics in the fresh water [yes, fresh tap water contains a ton of organics you can't see, but the bacteria will].

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Old 03-17-2012, 03:07 PM   #26
 
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multiple water changes is being advised on the reading of ammonia being elevated. Once the ammonia is in check than a weekly water change of 50%.. I agree that water changes for a bacterial bloom will more help but for the parameters that have been posted water changes need to be done for the health of the fish
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Old 03-17-2012, 03:26 PM   #27
 
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multiple water changes is being advised on the reading of ammonia being elevated. Once the ammonia is in check than a weekly water change of 50%.. I agree that water changes for a bacterial bloom will more help but for the parameters that have been posted water changes need to be done for the health of the fish
Thanks Barb, I had missed that. And I agree, the water quality is much more important and critical than clarity.
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Old 03-17-2012, 06:40 PM   #28
 
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Not a problem Byron, thought that might have happened
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Old 03-17-2012, 07:46 PM   #29
 
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if you have obvious debris setting on your gravel then get the vacum down there, I wouldnt vacum to close to the rooted plants but I dont see why you couldnt do the rest of the tank if there is junk down there. As far as your filter foam, Go to WalMart and pick up a package of Quilt batting from the craft area, its like 6 bucks for a whole bag of it, just cut to size you need, IMO carbon is only good for removing medications or other chemical additives. Best thing to get ammonia down is Massive water change, additives only work temporarily and mask the problem, gotta find the source of the ammonia and get rid of it, Either dead fish or plant material, etc. good luck
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Old 03-17-2012, 08:06 PM   #30
 
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if you have obvious debris setting on your gravel then get the vacum down there, I wouldnt vacum to close to the rooted plants but I dont see why you couldnt do the rest of the tank if there is junk down there. As far as your filter foam, Go to WalMart and pick up a package of Quilt batting from the craft area, its like 6 bucks for a whole bag of it, just cut to size you need, IMO carbon is only good for removing medications or other chemical additives. Best thing to get ammonia down is Massive water change, additives only work temporarily and mask the problem, gotta find the source of the ammonia and get rid of it, Either dead fish or plant material, etc. good luck
Actually at my local wallymart a bag of the polyester fiberfil is $4.00 !!! They also have a polyester fiberfil batt that's worth a look too.
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