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Old 03-11-2012, 10:59 AM   #31
 
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Thank you! I will start adding the Prime before i add the water, always thought it would hurt the fish since their is little water in the tank. Do you use only Prime or stability as well?

If not stability, when if ever should i use it?
Prime is a water conditioner, so you must use that.

Stability is a live bacterial supplement, useful in new tanks to seed the nitrifying bacteria. But once the tank is established I would not continue it, there is no need. Also remember though, that once it is opened, it has a very short shelf life. So don't go using it say 3 months from now, as it will be basically ineffective.
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:44 AM   #32
 
Stability has an expiration date printed in month/year format on the bottle and is viable until that date even if it's been opened. I'd also suggest that stability may have value beyond initial tank cycling. For example, if/when a filter is replaced, filter media/bacteria is compromised, medications are used that may negatively impact bacteria, etc. Although recommended, I'm not convinced that Stability needs to be added at water changes or when stock level is increased. However, one might argue that if stock levels were quickly increased (as in some sort of rescue) additional Stability use may be an advantage in more quickly increasing beneficial bacteria to handle the bio-load.
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:58 AM   #33
 
I use the straight refill method that others have already mentioned, I attach my hose to the shower then filling the tank up that way. Add dechlor before i refill, though I ONLY dose for the water I am adding. Then I match temps in the general range. Even if the tank fluctuates a few degrees fish really don't care. I usually change at least 50% every week, sometimes more.
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Old 03-11-2012, 03:13 PM   #34
 
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How do you use the shower????

The faucet i could use (bathroom sink) is about 40' from tanks? would useing a python type system be benificial????
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Old 03-11-2012, 03:31 PM   #35
 
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How do you use the shower????

The faucet i could use (bathroom sink) is about 40' from tanks? would useing a python type system be benificial????
The "Python" equipment has to fasten onto a faucet with threads, similar to your outdoor hoses. Now days with all our fancy faucets, about the only ones that still have threads are laundry room sinks (maybe) and showers. If you can unscrew the shower head, the Pythion hose will screw onto that. I use my laundry room faucet, which i had specially installed with an older-style faucet with threads.

For larger tanks, a Python makes life much easier. The initial unit comes with (I think) 50 feet of hose and you can buy 25-foot add-on sections. I have found the model made by Aqueon to be better (durability) of the faucet adaptor than the Python brand. But they function the same.

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Old 03-11-2012, 09:15 PM   #36
 
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The "Python" equipment has to fasten onto a faucet with threads, similar to your outdoor hoses. Now days with all our fancy faucets, about the only ones that still have threads are laundry room sinks (maybe) and showers. If you can unscrew the shower head, the Pythion hose will screw onto that. I use my laundry room faucet, which i had specially installed with an older-style faucet with threads.

For larger tanks, a Python makes life much easier. The initial unit comes with (I think) 50 feet of hose and you can buy 25-foot add-on sections. I have found the model made by Aqueon to be better (durability) of the faucet adaptor than the Python brand. But they function the same.

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Thanks Byron, i always thought it would only be worth wild if the sink was close. I am going to give it a shot with the new tank. Will make filling it easier as well.

Do you have to run the faucet the entire time you are draining water from the tank? That is how i saw one person do it, seemed like a whole lot of water wasted.....
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Old 03-11-2012, 09:51 PM   #37
 
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Yes you have to run the water on full pressure for the duration of emptying the tank.

In the summer when I do my water changes, I actually have a DIY cover which fits over the outlet of my python. What this allows me to do, is instead of wasting the water, I divert the outflow to another hose which then goes into a 110g garbage pale outside my house. Once a week, I stick a water pump with hose attached to the end into the pale and use the water for watering my garden / flowers etc. Saves me from ever having to run the outside faucet.

I made the DIY outflow pipe using a 1 1/2" tube which I got my local hardware store, a small "worm gear" clamp (see here). This fits over the end of the python and almost goes up to where the python hose attaches.

Now that I have just started a saltwater tank, I will use some of the water for watering for my garden, the rest I will pump through my RO/DI unit and if it comes out clean enough (havent actually tried it yet), will be using it for my auto top off system for my saltwater tank. If the water does come out clean enough then I will not be wasting anymore water even during the harsh Canadian winters. If it is not suitable to use in my RO/DI unit then I will have to send i down the drain as I cannot run the pale outside in winter and have no room for it in my house.

Just a thought as to what you might do with the water.
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