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Is water changing as easy as it seems?
Old 10-21-2011, 01:37 AM   #11
 
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I don't mean to thread jack but this brings up a question of mine!

When refilling, i use room temperature water and put in dechlorinator, but with larger water changes 50-75% it seems like my fish is sitting in a low level of water waiting for me to fill it back up( picture him tapping the watch on his fin saying 'hurry up!')

If it takes 30 minutes to get the water to room temperature and another couple minutes to mix the dechlorinator in...is that ok? Or do most of you guys prepare the fresh water in advance before you drain out the old stuff?


when i change water, i have water in a 30 gal container(tote) i have a spare heater i put in it, use the water conditioner, and run a spare, any cheap filter with no media, to circulate the water and to airate it. also to mix the conditioner in well.. when it reaches proper temperature, then i begin to syphon, so i already have well conditoned water, at proper temp.. no waiting..
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Old 10-21-2011, 01:44 PM   #12
 
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i would use a syphon, instead of dipping out water, even on small tanks.. going in multiple time and splashing around has to be more stressfull than a syphon
Can't really say for sure, but at least judging the behavior of my fish they never seemed bothered in the least. I use buckets if I'm only doing small tanks and I dump in 3 gallons at a time. I use a hose straight from the shower most of the time and can add 25-30 gallons in about 12 minuets(can go a lot faster but the pressure becomes an issue lol). My fish never seem bothered by this even sensitive ones like GBR. Fish fade in colors a little but thats to be expected. Most of mine don't hide and like the current of new incoming water, or they nibble on my arm.
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Old 10-21-2011, 02:07 PM   #13
 
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I hope this information helped you bob! Some valuable stuff here. I had to learn to ask if you don't understand always the best thing :)
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Old 10-21-2011, 04:46 PM   #14
 
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I hope this information helped you bob! Some valuable stuff here. I had to learn to ask if you don't understand always the best thing :)
Yes, it has. Thanks everyone! *Adds siphon to Christmas wish list*
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Old 10-21-2011, 06:28 PM   #15
 
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Hi everyone!


So, I know this is a silly question (I warned y'all!) but whenever I take the hood off of my fish tank to change the water, all my black skirt tetras turn gray (that's what they do when they're stressed) and school. It would be cute, if I didn't know that it's possible to kill a fish by stressing it out (right????). It may have something to do with the fact that I only have a 10 gallon tank, so they can see me scooping the water out and stuff.

So... Is there a way to change the water without stressing them out?

Also... I only have 3 of the tetras and a snail in there right now. How often should I be changing the water?

Finally... I'm eventually going to get 3 more tetras for a total of 6. How often then?

Sorry for the three-in-one thing, but I figure I might as well get my bandwidth's worth!

I have got it down to a science now. I use one siphon to suck out the dirty water and do a gentle gravel clean (dragging it over the gravel) Then when I am down to about 40% water left in the tank, I begin to refill with a different python hose. I try to get the water temp as close to what is currently in the tank 78-79 degrees. I add my PRIME at the beginning of the addition of new water. I do these changes every 4-5 days. I think the fish are just used to it as they do not seem stressed at all and swim around by the siphon as I am sucking water out. I move slow and careful around the tank. I also use a magnet on the sides of the tank to remove any algae from the glass. The fish are not excited about that but they simply swim away from it.
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Old 10-22-2011, 02:55 AM   #16
 
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Algae cleaners are worth so much, they are so well needed if you have no fish that eat algae!
My fish don't like the algae magnet, they swim away from it like its chasing them, but in my african clawed tank my biggest frog chases the magnet!
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Old 10-22-2011, 08:55 AM   #17
 
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After some assumed assumption, I have decided to release that my name is NOT Bob.
@NOT Bob,

Thanks for clearing that up although your folks must have had a sense of humor.
Reminds me of 'Who's on first'...
'So if your name's NOT Bob, what is it?'....'NOT Bob' ....second base.

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Old 10-24-2011, 09:56 AM   #18
 
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@NOT Bob,

Thanks for clearing that up although your folks must have had a sense of humor.
Reminds me of 'Who's on first'...
'So if your name's NOT Bob, what is it?'....'NOT Bob' ....second base.

Hmmm... I rather like "NOT Bob," but I guess I could give it up. My real name's Constance :)
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:44 AM   #19
 
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Hmmm... I rather like "NOT Bob," but I guess I could give it up. My real name's Constance :)
Awe, that's my wife's name - is that you honey? lol

Okay Not Bob, back to the story. I was doing the 2 gallon (dedicated) mop bucket brigade for water changes before getting smart(er).
Now I was too cheap to get the long Python/Aqueon and draining water through my septic system (live in the country with well and septic system) just didn't make sense. I use a regular 50' 5/8" garden hose. I insert the gravel siphon hose into the end and the other end goes out the front door and into a flower bed along the driveway. I vary the extent of the gravel siphoning...some weeks it's pretty aggressive, other weeks I lean more towards just removing water.
For the refill, I purchased a hose adapter for my bathroom faucet for $6. (I coudn't get an adapter for my kitchen faucet (weird spray arm) and gave up until I later got one for the family bathroom faucet at the top of the stairs [aquarium in the living room]).
I played with the hot/cold to get the right temperature and pressure and used a permanent pen to place small reference marks on the faucet/handles so I know where to set them every time. it works really well for me and takes out all of the guess work. Even though I don't have chlorine, I use prime. When doing my weekly water change of 50%, I dilute a capful of Prime in a plastic cup and slowly add this as I am refilling the tank.

My fish tend to hang out in the opposite side of the tank from where I am working. I'm sure they're a little stressed by the process (I wonder how we would feel if once a week our roof was taken off, the furniture all moved around and half the air taken out!) , but they sure seem to enjoy the fresh water coming in.

Following the WWC, I usually treat them with frozen brine shrimp (thawed first of course) and all is forgiven as they go nuts for shrimp.

In the end, as I think Byron also wrote, the healthy benefit of the water change outweighs any stress resulting from the process.

In your case, you would do fine with a couple of dedicated 2g mop buckets. Also, there are gravel siphons and other siphons where the siphon can be started without swilling tank water.

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