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Old 12-24-2007, 07:58 AM   #11
 
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have you added anything that would make there be ammonia in there? Or is there ammonia in your tap water?
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Old 12-24-2007, 08:44 AM   #12
 
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i have ph 7.5 and hard water... i dont remember off hand... all of them are alive.... and they been that way for a long time.....
Oh don't get me wrong, they can survive in neutral water as well, but I wouldn't think they'd be happy in 'hard' water, as the author describes his.

Mine have also done just fine in 7.5 water, then once I added driftwood, it lowered to 6.5 - 7. They're doing well. :D
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:31 PM   #13
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have you added anything that would make there be ammonia in there? Or is there ammonia in your tap water?

Must be ammonia in the tap... that's all I used.

Here is the tank pics at present... got everything running, and getting to pull another set of values... see if the ammonia dropped.
Here we go

PH = 7.6
Ammonia = .50 ppm
Nitrate and Nitrite @ 0 PPM

I have done nothing but set up what you see, and get some air and filtration started.
Sorry about the quality of the pic's...bad light and a camera phone. :D




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Old 12-24-2007, 09:39 PM   #14
 
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That looks really good!!!! I can't remember if you said already, but what type of fish are you thinking of getting? I bet it would look great with some brightly coloured cichlids! This is the second post I've seen with ammonia in the tap water... Does this not concern anyone else?
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:59 PM   #15
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Here's an article I found online about ammonia in tap water. Interesting stuff. Skip down to the section on chloramine.

http://fins.actwin.com/mirror/begin-tapwater.html
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Old 12-24-2007, 10:13 PM   #16
 
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Here's an article I found online about ammonia in tap water. Interesting stuff. Skip down to the section on chloramine.

http://fins.actwin.com/mirror/begin-tapwater.html
That is actually pretty interesting... What I'm wondering though, putting the fish aside... Yourself! I would be really mad if my city/town had ammonia in my tap water. I can understand if you don't drink it... But I'm sure other people do. Even your dog or cat, and I don't usually use bottled water for cooking? In my opinion if you drink it or not, it shouldn't be there. It's like your city feeding you poison slowly over time. I would be angry and call them no matter what.
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Old 12-25-2007, 11:01 AM   #17
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Here's an article I found online about ammonia in tap water. Interesting stuff. Skip down to the section on chloramine.

http://fins.actwin.com/mirror/begin-tapwater.html
That is actually pretty interesting... What I'm wondering though, putting the fish aside... Yourself! I would be really mad if my city/town had ammonia in my tap water. I can understand if you don't drink it... But I'm sure other people do. Even your dog or cat, and I don't usually use bottled water for cooking? In my opinion if you drink it or not, it shouldn't be there. It's like your city feeding you poison slowly over time. I would be angry and call them no matter what.
Our water here is garbage... and we do not drink it. Were "on the bottle"... LOL. We do have an R/O at the sink, and have a pre-filter on the water main into the house. Filling the 55 would have taken forever...so tap it is. I did not test the water prior to using it to fill the tank. That is my error.
I did use ammonia removing tablets...and that got it down to the last stated PPM.
In addition I also filled one of the filter slot's with the appropriate dose of this product:


The tank has become increasingly cloudy since filling, and I am not sure why. I am on duty today at the Firehouse, so time did not afford me the chance to test the water this morning.
The tank was (as the prior pics show) pretty clear on the initial fill. I assumed it would start out cloudy from the substrate... but I did put down a lot of gravel over the ECO Complete &Sand substrate...so maybe it's finally leaching out past the gravel bed, and being filtered.
I will be doing the partial water changes with distilled from here on out, until I get the quality and PH where I want it...then go for cycling the tank from there. I planned on using live fish(feeder guppies, ect) to cycle the tank when it's ready.
Please correct me if this is the wrong way, or there is a better way of completing this.

TIA
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Old 12-30-2007, 04:13 PM   #18
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Well just an update... the tank is progressing nicely...the fish are doing extremely well...and the water is nice and clear. Been doing small feedings in the morning and evening, and providing 8 - 10 hours of light per day.
I believe I will be working on a CO2 injection system today, and will have it started layout by this evening. Any Suggestions would be great. BTW...
I was wondering if anyone has ever "piggy backed" the CO2 delivery system (tubing) into the air pump tubing, supplying an airstone...ect.?
This would then be blended CO2 and O2 delivered through the airstone.
Sound nutso? ... LOL
Guess I should put down the wine for the evening...LOL
Have a Happy New Year Everyone!!! :D
Ok... here are a few camera phone pics..







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Old 01-02-2008, 02:59 PM   #19
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Tank is continuing without incident... Fish are growing nicely, and the plants look good so far.
I was planning on adding a dry fertilizer... In addition to the CO2, and current 9 hours of light a day with the Aqua Glo light.
Anyone have any plant fertilizer advice on a tank that is in it's infancy.
I got this off a search here... not sure how it's used... you just add it to the water??
http://www.aquariumfertilizer.com/st...cplantfood.php
PMDD Pre-Mix
1 lb contains 1 part each of Potassium Nitrate, Potassium Sulfate, Magnesium Sulfate, Plantex CSM+B.

Latest Values are

Ammonia @ .25 ppm
Nitrites 0 ppm
Nitrates 0 ppm
PH 7.6
Temp is at 78 degrees.
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Old 01-06-2008, 03:52 AM   #20
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Last water values:

PH = 7.6
Ammonia @ .25 ppm
Nitrites @ .25 ppm
Nitrates @ 0 ppm

Fish do not appear to be stressed at all.. wondered about adding some aquarium salt (reduce stress) for the fish, as I manipulate them through this cycle...
Good or bad idea?
I have 5 Zebra's and 5 Black Skirt Tetras.

TIA
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