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post #11 of 21 Old 02-11-2009, 05:24 PM
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If the ammonia is really at 8ppm, even a 50% water change will only cut that in half to 4ppm. That's still 12 times the recommended limit of .25ppm. You may even want to do 70% the first couple of water changes. Just make sure when you are adding water that you are also adding the prime first and add the water at the opposite end of the tank from the filter intake.
lol, easy..how about "6x", .50 ammonia never killed any of my fish...

not to mention, I'd never see 70% water changes being "non-stressful". Nothing over 50% or so.

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post #12 of 21 Old 02-11-2009, 05:28 PM
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As mentioned, Twice daily (every twelve hours) water changes will lower the ammonia and nitrite levels quickly. The damage has been done, Fishes gills have been burned, internal organs are under attack from elevated levels of both ammonia, and nitrites. The fish may or may not recover but will always be weaker from this expierience so proper aquarium maint will be mandatory . Regular WEEKLY20 to25 percent water changes,gravel vaccuming a small area of the tank with each water change,Not overfeeding or over stocking the tank. I would also seriously consider the extra filter for this tank.
Cool down...we don't even know if the test kit is working properly...1077, most fish would die within 1 hr. at 8ppm, Just think of it this way, fresh cool water's going to be flowing through it's gills...

I will back you on an extra filter...

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Thanks to everyone who gave us advice. We think we're back on track! We've done 50% water changes both yesterday and today. I've been adding Stability with the water changes and we plan on getting some Prime to condition our tap water. We've been using Top Fin Water Conditioner but it sounds like Prime is better quality. Before the water change today I tested the water and it was down to about 2ppm of ammonia but the nitrites are still pretty high. We're planning on doing daily water changes until both the ammonia and nitrites get to zero. Any other suggestions or are we on the right track?
Sounds like your on the right track :) continue this and even though it may be tempting, don't miss a day of water changes just b/c it's at a lower level now. K, best of luck :)

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lol, easy..how about "6x", .50 ammonia never killed any of my fish...

not to mention, I'd never see 70% water changes being "non-stressful". Nothing over 50% or so.
I've done 70% water changes several times. I usually only do that amount if I just made the water green by scraping the algae off the glass and disturbed the gravel to the point that the water has a lot of garbage floating around. I don't make it a habit. But as long as the water is treated with "prime", the water temp is within range of the tank and the PH is the same as the tank, what's the problem? Within 1 hour of this water change, the fish are back to exploring and eating as usual.

Glad to hear the tank is getting back to good levels.
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Cool down...we don't even know if the test kit is working properly...1077, most fish would die within 1 hr. at 8ppm, Just think of it this way, fresh cool water's going to be flowing through it's gills...

I will back you on an extra filter...

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just wanted to thank everyone again for their help. after doing water changes every other day and using prime and stability both the ammonia and nitrites in our tank are at 0 ppm!! this forum really helps especially for beginners like myself!
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post #17 of 21 Old 02-18-2009, 12:33 PM
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I thought i read somewhere, that the product Ammo-Lock will de toxify the ammonia, but from what i understood about it, after using it your levels for ammonia will read the same, but the ammonia is no longer toxic to fish.....Maybe someone else will have a better experience with this product or results from using it............I will say that i agree with everyone else about the aggressive water changes till your readings are alot lower...........Good Luck, hope you dont lose any fish
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post #18 of 21 Old 02-18-2009, 01:00 PM
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I think ammo lock does not get rid of ammonia, but converts it to a less toxic substance which your fish can tolerate...i could be wrong though
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post #19 of 21 Old 02-18-2009, 01:54 PM
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I agree JohnnyD, but does the ammonia still test as being ammonia?.............in other words, after the ammo-lock converts it to something else does the test kits still reconize it as ammonia?............or will it show as being ammonia free?
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Ammo Lock locks up ammonia (NH3) into a non toxic form NH4 (ammonium). The API ammonia kit tests for both NH3 and NH4 so it still shows up but is in a less toxic form.

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