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post #151 of 174 Old 03-21-2013, 02:54 PM
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I thought of extending the cross bar down. The issue I had was the catfish (Corys if you will) scoot to the top for their gulp of air FAST. I would hate to have them brain themselves on something they likely can't see. The other night I heard one whack the glass, it's close to the water, which was part of why I dropped the water level. It also made me wonder if my catfish losses were related to them bonking themselves one too many times. Just like hockey players, I might suppose they would be prone to some sort of fish concussion and, perhaps, it causes enough stress to let some infection take hold.

That's a little out there theory wise, but lowering the water eliminates even the unlikely chance if it happening. At least they won't bonk anymore.

Oh, back to the topic... if you do the acrylic, split a hose length wise and push it onto the plastic as sort of a bumper... save the fishes noggins.

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post #152 of 174 Old 03-21-2013, 02:55 PM
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Before my Frogbit filled out, the small group I had just wandered around my tank. The spiraling drove me insane. I actually ended up just bunching it together where I wanted it, sort of lassoed the group with a cotton thread and tied a lead to something, for me I tied it to the top my canisters intake. I'm sure you could use fishing line or the like as well.
Like I said, little tiny leashes... not so funny now, eh?

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Before my Frogbit filled out, the small group I had just wandered around my tank. The spiraling drove me insane. I actually ended up just bunching it together where I wanted it, sort of lassoed the group with a cotton thread and tied a lead to something, for me I tied it to the top my canisters intake. I'm sure you could use fishing line or the like as well.
You literally used a tiny little leash that's hilarious.

I read that their are different types of Frogbit. North american, Amazon, etc... Anyone have an Idea on the sizes of these? The frogbit I purchased is approximately a CM in diameter. Maybe it's just a bunch of starts?

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You literally used a tiny little leash

I read that their are different types of Frogbit. North american, Amazon, etc... Anyone have an Idea on the sizes of these? The frogbit I purchased is approximately a CM in diameter. Maybe it's just a bunch of starts?
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That was what I had bought. Started small like that, then eventually the older plants grow to around 5 inches in diameter and sent out babies all over. Mine grow like crazy, the roots reach the bottom in a week >,>.
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I'm pretty sure what I have is the daughter plants as they are smaller than what was displayed in the link you posted. If these things are fast growing I suppose I will know soon enough exactly how big they can get

As far as segregating them from the filter side of the tank. I think I'm going to try the Air line technique first... We'll see how well it works

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I'm pretty sure what I have is the daughter plants as they are smaller than what was displayed in the link you posted. If these things are fast growing I suppose I will no soon enough exactly how big they can get

As far as segregating them from the filter side of the tank. I think I'm going to try the Air line technique first... We'll see how well it works
Not entirely sure that they're supposed to grow as fast as mine do. I just think my lights are too bright (I have T5 HO's). Which is why I keep the majority of the tank thick with frogbit, does a create job at cutting down the light.
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Not entirely sure that they're supposed to grow as fast as mine do. I just think my lights are too bright (I have T5 HO's). Which is why I keep the majority of the tank thick with frogbit, does a create job at cutting down the light.
I have dual T5 HO's as well. This is partly why I'm wanting to corral them to one side of the tank. I have several low to moderate Light plants on the side that is opposite the Filter.
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You literally used a tiny little leash that's hilarious.

I read that their are different types of Frogbit. North american, Amazon, etc... Anyone have an Idea on the sizes of these? The frogbit I purchased is approximately a CM in diameter. Maybe it's just a bunch of starts?
This is referenced in our profile of this plant. The photos in the profile are, according to the planted tank sources I checked, the true Amazon Frogbit. I have one of the other temperate species in my tank; the leaves are basically identical, but when it flowers it is obviously not the same. In fact, we had an email from someone in the California Agriculture Department about having this invasive plant in our profiles, as it is a noxious weed in some states; he was going by the photo of the flower which happened to be one of my plants, which I had thought was the Amazon species, but they are not. I since removed the flower photo to avoid confusion. I have had this plant for 4 years, and it does well for a few weeks, then it dies back almost to nothing. Now that I know it is the temperate species, I am thinking this may be due to the constant higher temperatures which would not be natural to the plant.

When I acquired the two spindly plants from a local fish store, the leaves were probably around 1.5 or 2 cm across; on my healthy plants, they are from 4 to 5 cm.

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post #159 of 174 Old 03-23-2013, 11:07 PM Thread Starter
... I wish I had a 150 Gallon Tank...
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post #160 of 174 Old 03-25-2013, 08:27 PM Thread Starter
Well I managed to "corral" the frogbit by using Vinyl water line tied to the T-bar of the tank. I used fishing string and tied three locations on the T-bar and a lead weight to the rear location which I then hung over the back of the tank (Not in the tank). The weight helps keep it snug in place. The ends of the tubing were plugged with plastic screw-like drywall anchors that I purchased from Home Depot.

This little setup had a few kinks I had to work out but now it works great and you can't even see the divider... Just nice little clusters of Frogbit floating around above my low-light plants
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