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post #1 of 19 Old 01-28-2013, 04:01 PM Thread Starter
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Urgent help needed!!

In the last 2 days iv had to euthenise 2 Congo Tetras and pull out 1 that had passed.

Iv done 50% water changes both days altho the perameters are the same as they always are, no spikes or anything!

All 3 fish have had splits in there bodies which looki quite nasty, they are of different shapes and sizes so im not suspecting bites. The 2 i had to euthenise were both on the bottom of the tank listing to oneside, when trying to move them to see if they had any strength to survive they instantly rolled over.

this is very distressing and i hate having the thought of waking up on the morning or coming home from work to have to take out even more or worse euthenise more.

Of a group of 10 im now down to 7.

Any help would be greatfully recieved!
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post #2 of 19 Old 01-28-2013, 05:00 PM Thread Starter
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Correction iv found the problem1

My yoy has just appeared with a war wound on the side of its body! So i guess the marks are bites, but is it the yoy doing it and the congos fighting back or is something attacking both?

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post #3 of 19 Old 01-28-2013, 05:10 PM
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Details would help?
Tank size?
Inhabitants?
picture of whole tank?
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55G tall planted community
15G Dwarf puffer tank
15G plant propagation tank
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post #4 of 19 Old 01-28-2013, 05:29 PM
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This may be a bacterial disease, and internal. I don't like suggesting treatments with another's fish, but the only time I have seen this myself was in connection with a protozoan and medicating the food with Metro+ worked. Hopefully a member who has dealt with this will see the thread.

Edit: As I was typing, your subsequent post appeared. Unless you have definite witness of the loach actualy biting another fish, I would not think this the cause.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]

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post #5 of 19 Old 01-28-2013, 05:32 PM Thread Starter
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Details would help?
Tank size?
Inhabitants?
picture of whole tank?
etc
Inhabitants are

7 x Congo tetras
4 xrummynose tetras
8 x marble hatchet fish
1 x gold bristlenose plec
1 x yoyo
crs
assasin snails

tank is 48 x 15 x 12
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post #6 of 19 Old 01-28-2013, 05:35 PM Thread Starter
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This may be a bacterial disease, and internal. I don't like suggesting treatments with another's fish, but the only time I have seen this myself was in connection with a protozoan and medicating the food with Metro+ worked. Hopefully a member who has dealt with this will see the thread.

Edit: As I was typing, your subsequent post appeared. Unless you have definite witness of the loach actualy biting another fish, I would not think this the cause.
The yoyo has bloood around 1 gill and looks to be torn, behaviour doesnt seem to different than normal, but is following the congos everywhere

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How long have you had the Congo?

Further to my earlier comment on the loach, I may have to revise that as you only have one and this can cause severe stress which can bring out aggression. And this can occur at night. Loaches must be in groups as they are highly social.

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iv been trying to get more loach, local lfs seem not to stock them so often, with work commitments and irregular shift patterns i cant ask them to get me some as i never know when im off to pick them up. The congos iv had since sept 2011. Iv been trying to take a picture of its wound but as you know they dont play ball

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iv been trying to get more loach, local lfs seem not to stock them so often, with work commitments and irregular shift patterns i cant ask them to get me some as i never know when im off to pick them up. The congos iv had since sept 2011. Iv been trying to take a picture of its wound but as you know they dont play ball
I'm still inclined to think this is a bacterial issue. If you can get some metronidazole to mix in with their food it might help, if this is anything internal. Seachem make this drug on its own, or Aquarium Solutions make Metro+. With either you mix it with flake food in a zip-lock bag, enough for 10 days or more, and then feed this (only) for 10 or so days. You are in the UK so there may be other products the same.

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post #10 of 19 Old 01-30-2013, 09:15 AM Thread Starter
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Firstly i would like t5o thank Byron for his input, thank you.

I have gone out and purchased a general bacterial treatment and have started using it, unfortunately it seems to have come to late, I have now lost 7 of my 10 Congo Tetras and even tho treating im not expecting the other 3 to make it.

It is absolutly gut wrenching seeing this happen, not to mention euthenising 4 of them, they were suffering to much and looked to have no hope of pulling thru.
I did it humanly using a tub with water, covering in a plastic bag and putting them in the freezer.

In all my years iv NEVER had to go thrru this and NEVER want to again!

None of the other fish appear to be affected, nor do the inverts in the same tank.

They will be kept under observation until such a time as i deem them ok to go into the other tank. Probably about a month

The tank will then be used to grow out plants for a new set up and also for inverts only!

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