Upgrading the Puffers to a 26 gallon - Page 2 - Tropical Fish Keeping - Aquarium fish care and resources
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post #11 of 21 Old 12-20-2012, 07:20 PM Thread Starter
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A cruddy top fin ten or something of that sort by top fin, I got it with a set up I bought from petsmart and it worked for a while but now is starting to slow down. Only been a year. But it doesn't suck up the shrimp or the puffers which is the most important thing. Why do you need such strong gph for the puffers?

40 gallon with 13 hermit crabs- 11 PPs, 1 E, 1 Straw
25 Gallon
~2 Dwarf Puffer- Sidney and Cairo, 4 Amano Shrimp, 4 Blue Pearl Shrimp, 4 Yellow Cherry Shrimp, 2 Mandarin Cherry Shrimp, Too many RCS, 4 Crystal Red Shrimp, 4- Otos

5 gallon
~White/Teal/Red Betta- Phantom, Snails

25 Gallon
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post #12 of 21 Old 12-20-2012, 07:38 PM
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Because they are messy dirty lil fish. LoL
I once read where one person said they weren't as bad as an Oscar when it comes to eating but darn close. Now I have never owned an Oscar before but have heard they are supper messy. I always sit and watch my puffers eat and have noticed that in fact they are messy eaters. Another reason is (I don't know what temp you keep your tank?) when the tank temp is around 80 (mine is) fish metabolism speeds up and they eat more and poop more. These two things alone make them messy dirty lil fish.

Edit: They are so very sensitive to ammonia and nitrites as I stated before. Nitrates should be less then 20 as well. With all that and them being messy fish bigger filtration will help ad in that. Plants will to but I would rather play it safe and have both in place.
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post #13 of 21 Old 12-20-2012, 07:39 PM Thread Starter
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I have mine at 79 degrees I think.... but yeah I've noticed they are really messy eaters XD it's so funny

40 gallon with 13 hermit crabs- 11 PPs, 1 E, 1 Straw
25 Gallon
~2 Dwarf Puffer- Sidney and Cairo, 4 Amano Shrimp, 4 Blue Pearl Shrimp, 4 Yellow Cherry Shrimp, 2 Mandarin Cherry Shrimp, Too many RCS, 4 Crystal Red Shrimp, 4- Otos

5 gallon
~White/Teal/Red Betta- Phantom, Snails

25 Gallon
~Leopard Gecko- Desert Rose
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post #14 of 21 Old 12-20-2012, 11:59 PM Thread Starter
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I have a quick question for any bowfront owners out there... are they hard to clean at all? I want to make sure I get the right tank if I need to I will go with the 25 gallon rectangle.

40 gallon with 13 hermit crabs- 11 PPs, 1 E, 1 Straw
25 Gallon
~2 Dwarf Puffer- Sidney and Cairo, 4 Amano Shrimp, 4 Blue Pearl Shrimp, 4 Yellow Cherry Shrimp, 2 Mandarin Cherry Shrimp, Too many RCS, 4 Crystal Red Shrimp, 4- Otos

5 gallon
~White/Teal/Red Betta- Phantom, Snails

25 Gallon
~Leopard Gecko- Desert Rose
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post #15 of 21 Old 12-21-2012, 10:52 AM
When I set up the new tank for the dwarf puffers, I really wanted an instant cycle because I was buying a new tank one day, and adding fish the next. Knowing they are very sensitive to ammonia, nitrites and even nitrates, I took every precaution.

I cut a piece of the sponge from an established aquaclear 70 to fit the aquaclear 20 I run on the 10 gallon. I put a sponge on the water intake so the puffers wouldn't get sucked up.

I put the rest of the sponge in the tank too. I also used a nylon full of substrate from an established tank. I put it in the nylon because it was a different color and I wanted to be able to remove it later.

I added plants, of course. I have added more since.

I also used water from an established tank (though apparently it doesn't help, I did it anyway) and added a bottle of colony bacteria.


I never had any ammonia or nitrites in the new tank.


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post #16 of 21 Old 12-21-2012, 04:15 PM Thread Starter
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Just remeasured my desk, sadly the bowfront will not fit on it, though I can still get a regular 25 gallon rectangle and I will be fine XD good thing I remeasured.

CF thanks for the info o.o what kind of bacteria did you use?

40 gallon with 13 hermit crabs- 11 PPs, 1 E, 1 Straw
25 Gallon
~2 Dwarf Puffer- Sidney and Cairo, 4 Amano Shrimp, 4 Blue Pearl Shrimp, 4 Yellow Cherry Shrimp, 2 Mandarin Cherry Shrimp, Too many RCS, 4 Crystal Red Shrimp, 4- Otos

5 gallon
~White/Teal/Red Betta- Phantom, Snails

25 Gallon
~Leopard Gecko- Desert Rose
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post #17 of 21 Old 12-21-2012, 06:13 PM
It's called Colony.

I actual show the bottle in that short video clip.


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post #18 of 21 Old 12-21-2012, 06:28 PM Thread Starter
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Oh XD I didn't see the last part was called away, I saw it now XDDD ok then o.o I dunno if we have that here though .___. maybe API would work the same?

40 gallon with 13 hermit crabs- 11 PPs, 1 E, 1 Straw
25 Gallon
~2 Dwarf Puffer- Sidney and Cairo, 4 Amano Shrimp, 4 Blue Pearl Shrimp, 4 Yellow Cherry Shrimp, 2 Mandarin Cherry Shrimp, Too many RCS, 4 Crystal Red Shrimp, 4- Otos

5 gallon
~White/Teal/Red Betta- Phantom, Snails

25 Gallon
~Leopard Gecko- Desert Rose
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post #19 of 21 Old 12-21-2012, 06:52 PM
Who knows if it even does anything.

Some people swear by Tetra SafeStart, but it has never worked for me on its own.

It's full name is
ATM Colony Professional Grade Nitrifying Bacteria Freshwater Aquarium Supplement



It is available at petco, if you have one of them. I don't know about this stuff to recommend it. The LFS suggested it. I think I was probably cycled from the used media and substrate anyway.

http://www.petco.com/product/118773/...upplement.aspx


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post #20 of 21 Old 12-21-2012, 06:58 PM Thread Starter
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I would like to have some type of bacteria starter to use just in case... though they rarely work in my experience XD

40 gallon with 13 hermit crabs- 11 PPs, 1 E, 1 Straw
25 Gallon
~2 Dwarf Puffer- Sidney and Cairo, 4 Amano Shrimp, 4 Blue Pearl Shrimp, 4 Yellow Cherry Shrimp, 2 Mandarin Cherry Shrimp, Too many RCS, 4 Crystal Red Shrimp, 4- Otos

5 gallon
~White/Teal/Red Betta- Phantom, Snails

25 Gallon
~Leopard Gecko- Desert Rose
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