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Old 02-21-2012, 11:09 AM   #1
 
Update: Cycled in just about 4 weeks...

Hi,

First thanks to all who responded to my newbie posts last month. After getting back into the hobby after 15 years, and the help of this forum, Seachem reps, and my LFS, my tank is cycled and all the fish are happy. I started with fish, old school I guess, and lost two early on. I now come to find through my lfs that they were sick to begin with and I will be receiving credit for them. I'll post some brief details since I'm hoping I can help another who might be off to a shaky start to the hobby. If you read through my previous posts, I was given varying advice on water changes while cycling and adding fish. I finally called Seachem to see what they had to say since I was using their Stability and Prime. I was told to only do weekly water changes, test daily (used the API Master Test), add Stability daily and Prime every 48 hours while it cycled. If the Nitrites went beyond a 3 I was told to double the dose of Prime. I was also told I could continue to slowly stock the aquarium. I followed the advice to the letter and I now have an almost fully stocked, clean, clear cycled tank. And thanks to this forum, I have added some low light plants and am enjoying watching them grow a bit (my double bright Marineland LED should arrive today).

My 46 gallon is now home to a beautiful Pearl Gourami, an Angelfish, 1 lone Glo fish from my daughters Betta tank, 2 Celebes rainbow, a Raphael spotted catfish and 6 Black Phantom Tetras. I know the mix may become aggressive (the gourami and angel were added together), but so far so good, and my LFS store has assured me they will take back any troublemakers.

Thanks again for this forum.
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Old 02-21-2012, 07:33 PM   #2
 
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Hi,

First thanks to all who responded to my newbie posts last month. After getting back into the hobby after 15 years, and the help of this forum, Seachem reps, and my LFS, my tank is cycled and all the fish are happy. I started with fish, old school I guess, and lost two early on. I now come to find through my lfs that they were sick to begin with and I will be receiving credit for them. I'll post some brief details since I'm hoping I can help another who might be off to a shaky start to the hobby. If you read through my previous posts, I was given varying advice on water changes while cycling and adding fish. I finally called Seachem to see what they had to say since I was using their Stability and Prime. I was told to only do weekly water changes, test daily (used the API Master Test), add Stability daily and Prime every 48 hours while it cycled. If the Nitrites went beyond a 3 I was told to double the dose of Prime. I was also told I could continue to slowly stock the aquarium. I followed the advice to the letter and I now have an almost fully stocked, clean, clear cycled tank. And thanks to this forum, I have added some low light plants and am enjoying watching them grow a bit (my double bright Marineland LED should arrive today).

My 46 gallon is now home to a beautiful Pearl Gourami, an Angelfish, 1 lone Glo fish from my daughters Betta tank, 2 Celebes rainbow, a Raphael spotted catfish and 6 Black Phantom Tetras. I know the mix may become aggressive (the gourami and angel were added together), but so far so good, and my LFS store has assured me they will take back any troublemakers.

Thanks again for this forum.
Do you feel like adding the Stability and Prime helped? I have been cycling a 50 gallon for two and a half weeks so far, doing 50% water changes every other day or so. I just tested my water using the same kit as yours and I came up with:
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 5
Nitrate 10

I have had about the same results for the past few days. I wonder if I should look into some of those products or just wait it out.
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:54 AM   #3
 
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:12 AM   #4
 
Since I had begun a fish in cycle, I do believe Prime made the difference by detoxifying the nitrates and such. I also believe the Stability helped speed the whole process along. Although I only added a few plants so far, I have to factor them in a bit to my good results. I was impressed with the excellent customer service I received from the Seachem representatives. I spent a good amount of time on the phone and never felt rushed or that I was asking pointless questions. She seemed to have the overall health of my fish a top priority.
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:13 AM   #5
 
I will try and take some better pictures today. I tried yesterday and those darn fish move fast LOL.
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:17 AM   #6
 
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My 46 gallon is now home to a beautiful Pearl Gourami, an Angelfish, 1 lone Glo fish from my daughters Betta tank, 2 Celebes rainbow, a Raphael spotted catfish and 6 Black Phantom Tetras. I know the mix may become aggressive (the gourami and angel were added together), but so far so good, and my LFS store has assured me they will take back any troublemakers.

Thanks again for this forum.
Glad your aquarium is cycled!

I thought it might be helpful to mention however that Angelfish are a schooling fish, which means they need to be kept in a group of at least 5-6, and of course more is better. However, these are also large fish that can eventually reach 6 inches in length (and height). Because of that, a 55 gallon aquarium is the smallest for a group. It is also best if the entire group is acquired at the same time, and are all the same age. If, however, you were to obtain a mated pair you can get by with just the two. They must be acquired that way though. Angelfish are also generally not compatible with Anabantids which is what your Pearl Gourami is.

Glo fish are also schooling, and need a group of 6+ to feel happy and secure.

Celebes rainbow fish are, again, schooling and need a group of 6+. You'll find a lot of fish particularly smaller ones are schooling in nature. In addition, most rainbow fish are hard alkaline fish while all the others you have are soft acidic fish. Do you know your water hardness (GH and KH)? And your pH? The pet store can likely test you water for all three, if not you can get hardness from your water supply department.

I should also mention that fish need to school with their own species, for example getting one each of six species of tetra would not school together.

Hope this is helpful for you.
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:48 AM   #7
 
Thank you for your recommendations on the fish. I took a trip last week to our oldest local fish store for the first time and (65 years in business and the person I spoke with has been there 30 years), it was recommended I choose either one angel or 3 or more. I went with the one since I didn't want to overstock. I was also told the Pearl Gourami in particular should be fine with the Angel since it is the most peaceful of the Gouramis. I will watch them carefully though and remove one if an issue should arise. The Gourami is full grown, but the Angel is very young.

The Glo fish was originally and addition of 2 from my daughters 5 gallon. After a day, I saw one as a nipper and returned him to PetCo where she purchased him. I would have returned both, but couldn't catch the other who is not nippy and hanging out with the Celebes. When the Glo fish is gone I won't add another.

As for the Celebes, my original intention was to have a school, but the other lfs has been out of them for quite a while and doesn't know when they will get more in stock. So far, I have a male and female who seem happy and hang out with the Glo fish.

I'm in the Phoenix metro area so our tap water hovers around 8 and the water is known to be hard. The LFS suggests not messing with the PH.

I appreciate you suggestions and hope to have a happy balance of fish. Do you have an opinion on Platys? My 10 year old really likes them, and I was told 3 males might work.

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Old 02-22-2012, 10:11 AM   #8
 
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Platy's are a livebearer, and are also fish that thrive in hard basic water (alkaline). They would do just fine in your water. All males is best, as even a single female will breed like rabbits.

At a pH of 8, you are most certainly on the basic side, and to the point that you exceed the pH limit of all the soft acidic fish. Most tank bred fish can be adapted to local water conditions, but even so the end result is usually a reduced lifespan.

They are right about the pH, using chemicals is a disaster in the making. The only way I would recommend is mixing RO/DI water with tap to lower the hardness and in the process bring you closer to a pH of 7.

Using peat moss or driftwood can, sometimes, slightly lower pH as they leach tanins, but that depends on the KH (buffering capacity) of your water.

A single Angel won't be very happy I'm afraid =/ You can read their profile here if you like to learn quite a bit about them, just click on the shaded name Scalare Angelfish.

The behavior you saw in the glo fish is very typical of schooling fish when they are not kept in a school, they can become quite aggressive since they are stressed out.
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