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post #11 of 16 Old 10-23-2008, 12:36 PM
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planted tanks and ugf's don't mix very well as mentioned above. i had one on a 10g and i only used it because is came as a starter kit. but it stayed messier than my 55g planted with just 2 HOB aquaclears. UGF gives you more equipment is a small area, less space for the fish. aquaclears are the best filter for the money. double up on the sponges in the basket and your set. if you can, retrofit a sponge around the intake tube to keep plant debris out. that way you can limit how much you have to clean the actual sponges that disturbs your colony. just clean the sponge on the intake tube. and clown loaches are fine in a 55 for awhile but a 75 at least is recommended. they don't actually grow to the size all the profiles online say they do. in captivity they grow smaller. like most in this hobby, they grow/reproduce based on what its environment limits them to.

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post #12 of 16 Old 10-23-2008, 12:56 PM
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I dunno...I've definitely seen some 12" clown loaches, and *plenty* of 8 to 10 inchers. Add to that the fact that they need to be in a school, and you're looking at a big tank in order to house them.

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post #13 of 16 Old 10-23-2008, 05:59 PM
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yeah thats why i was saying for awhile a 55 would be okay. one should get them when they are small for sure. 15" is suppose to be the max. but at 7+ they aren't even cute anymore IMO,lol. I'd only use them for snail control anyways and then see if I can find someone to take them.
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post #14 of 16 Old 10-23-2008, 08:54 PM Thread Starter
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I probably won't be getting the clown loach anymore or the brown knife, maybe eventually later. My bichirs are still small babies, they are about 4 inches at the moment, the albino rainbow shark is 3 inches, my pleco is the biggest. I got the tank free from friend so I was going to be using it temporarily until I can eventually get my 150 gallon tank, but that won't be for about half a year or so. So I decided to not use the UGF and just started up the tank to be cycled. I'm going to be using live plants and I don't it getting messed up by the UGF. Next week I'm going to get the tiger barbs to help the tank cycle. I'm into that are not that common. What other fish do you guys recommend?
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post #15 of 16 Old 10-24-2008, 12:18 PM
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zebra danios are said to be hardly cycling fish. i believe they are cheaper than tiger and should do the trick.
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post #16 of 16 Old 10-27-2008, 12:14 AM
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Forget the fact that their bottom dwelling fish Crisseh... The fish can't even fit in his tank! I think we need proper sized fish first before we can even start to complaing about to many bottom dwellers (and for your information, all the coolest fish are bottom dwellers, lol!)
I agree. I was trying to encourage him to down size the number of fish that will out grow his tank. (yes there are a lot of cool bottom dwellers, but I like "swimmy" fish too :P )
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