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post #11 of 15 Old 06-25-2012, 04:52 AM Thread Starter
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That will be fine for tetra and such, but your livebearers (I see guppy and platy in the photo) will not be too happy. If you are using rainwater, it will almost certainly be soft, and the pH will be acidic.
Ah yes, well spotted. Unfortunately I got them before I appreciated the importance of water ph/hardnesss. Would happy off load them to someone/lfs but my son has named them and is very attached to them now. How can I give away a tiny guppy called Chop Wood? I'd be a monster.

But on a serious note I would like to try and find a happy middle ground for the livebearers if one exists. Is there any scope for overlap between them and the tetra's I have and intend to get (will post another thread about that one)?

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post #12 of 15 Old 06-25-2012, 05:09 AM Thread Starter
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While I'm at it, a big thank you to everyone who has provided advice so far. A couple of pics below the first at week 3 and the second at week 4. Boy ambulia grows fast!
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post #13 of 15 Old 06-25-2012, 10:23 AM
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Ah yes, well spotted. Unfortunately I got them before I appreciated the importance of water ph/hardnesss. Would happy off load them to someone/lfs but my son has named them and is very attached to them now. How can I give away a tiny guppy called Chop Wood? I'd be a monster.

But on a serious note I would like to try and find a happy middle ground for the livebearers if one exists. Is there any scope for overlap between them and the tetra's I have and intend to get (will post another thread about that one)?
In my view, no, based on the science. Rather than go into the reasons, I will refer you to my article on stress which covers the problems fish have with water parameters (hardness, pH and temperature) outside their preference.
http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/f...um-fish-98852/

However, it depends upon species. Livebearers absolutely must have medium hard water with a basic (above 7) pH. Most tetra are soft water fish. But a few species, thinking Pristella Tetra for one, do occur in a wider range of parameters naturally, so they will adapt. But fish like neon tetra and cardinal will not be healthy in hard water and always have a shorter lifespan as explained in that linked article.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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Chop Wood--that is so cute! Kids come up with the most inventive names, don't they? By the way, I'm SUPER jealous of your ambulia! Its gorgeous. Wish I had the right lighting for it, as its one of my favorites.

10 gallon- 8 Harlequin Rasboras, 1 female betta.

20 gallonH - 1 Peacock Gudgeon, 2 Skunk Cories, 1 Sparkling Gourami. , one male betta, 2 nerite snails.

55 gallon - 3 Turquoise Rainbows, 1 Boesemani Rainbow, 2 Australian Rainbow, 4 Gold Dust mollies, 1 L. Dorsigera, 2 White Cloud Mountain Minnows, 1 Honey Gourami, 3 Cherry barb, 1 Koi Angelfish, 4 female betta.
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Chop Wood--that is so cute! Kids come up with the most inventive names, don't they? By the way, I'm SUPER jealous of your ambulia! Its gorgeous. Wish I had the right lighting for it, as its one of my favorites.
Ha ha yeh its a great name. I only have a single 40 watt tube on a 50 gal and just jammed the abulia stems in the ground and its gone crazy. just today I cut the tops out of 4 plants and did the same hoping they will take like the first. I'd definitely recommend giving it a go. Seems to be a pretty rugged plant!
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