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Old 02-14-2010, 10:47 AM   #21
 
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I just read this article http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/art_plant_newtank.htm
and I think I'll do as he says. I'll let the plants get established and use up the nutrients in the water for now. Adding more via fish waste/food would likely promote aglae. However I may seem some hair algae on my one Sword. I'll keep an eye on this and watch the plants to make sure they are going to do ok.
I may get some fast growing floaters to help with the nutrient uptake.
I don't want algae. No one does. But me being me, should I get algae, it'll be a war. I'll burn the crap out is my point. And we don't want that. I fight to win a war :)
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Old 02-14-2010, 10:57 AM   #22
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At the end it says.

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I strongly recommend against using this method if you don't have medium-high lighting, lots of fast growing plants, and effective CO2 injection. If you do try this method without all of these "requirements", it's quite likely that the initial fish will be exposed to toxic ammonia and nitrite levels.
I think you have low to medium lighting no? And are you putting in CO2 injection?

I know my lighting is medium at most and I am not going the CO2 route so I think I will stick to Angel and Byron's suggestions myself. I am curious as to how this works out for you though. Good Luck
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:03 AM   #23
 
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I guess I didn't see that part. Thanks Pep. I have at least medium lighting. 2- 65w compact fl. 6700k with highly polished reflector. No co2

I'm sot sure I know Byron's and Angel's rec. way.
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:08 AM   #24
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In the planted forum area Byron has stickied 4 threads with info on planted tanks.
Based on my research (and be aware I have ZERO experience:) ) that seems more like med-high lighting so you might be ok with that link's ideas from that point of view.
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:15 AM   #25
 
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Oh yeah. I've read Byron's sticky posts. Awesome read.
I'm just trying to figure out where to go next. Plants are in. Heavily planted tank as well.
Not sure if I should add pure ammonia to get the cycle moving forward, add some fish, add some algae eaters like shrimp or Ramshorn snail, or wait. I'm not sure.

The plan is to stay with light fertilizing and no co2 to maintain the tank. I am trying to figure out my next move. I was never really good at chess lol. This is sort of a chess game
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:20 AM   #26
 
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Well I am following your tank now closely, so be sure to state things that are working well, and things that don't work out like you thought. I am running my first planted tank, also a 55.
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:29 AM   #27
 
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It should be a trial cbirk.
I think there is smoke coming off of my head from the proverbial wood that I am burning trying to think.
Initial thoughts are:
Don't overload the tank with ammonia by adding fish. But it is heavily planted.
However, the plants are new in the tank and I don't want to over do it nor starve them.
I've read many times fish can added immediately. And I'm thinking 5-6 fish isn't a lot and to control feeding as to not overload. the plants should uptake any ammonia as it is their preferred source. But the 30 ppm nitrates in the tap water and thus, in my tank is a concern. However, Prime conditioner that i use detoxifies it. The nitrates will still read on the test though.

Decision, decisions...
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:30 AM   #28
 
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Oh yeah. I've read Byron's sticky posts. Awesome read.
I'm just trying to figure out where to go next. Plants are in. Heavily planted tank as well.
Not sure if I should add pure ammonia to get the cycle moving forward, add some fish, add some algae eaters like shrimp or Ramshorn snail, or wait. I'm not sure.

The plan is to stay with light fertilizing and no co2 to maintain the tank. I am trying to figure out my next move. I was never really good at chess lol. This is sort of a chess game
I could not find straight ammonia around here easily enough, so I just went the food route and then when I had to put my daughter's fish in the big tank it did not matter anyway. The difference is, I was able to seed it and the makes my situation completely diffferent.

I know that Stephanie used the fish food route and it worked fine for her. If you decide not to use fish (which is what I would do), your tank may not take that long even without seeding it since you have lots of plants and the Eco complete, but not sure. I have read that Algae eaters and shrimp should be introduced after the tank has cycled since they are sensitive and actually best not to be the first fish in right after it is cycled.
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:33 AM   #29
 
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It should be a trial cbirk.
I think there is smoke coming off of my head from the proverbial wood that I am burning trying to think.
Initial thoughts are:
Don't overload the tank with ammonia by adding fish. But it is heavily planted.
However, the plants are new in the tank and I don't want to over do it nor starve them.
I've read many times fish can added immediately. And I'm thinking 5-6 fish isn't a lot and to control feeding as to not overload. the plants should uptake any ammonia as it is their preferred source. But the 30 ppm nitrates in the tap water and thus, in my tank is a concern. However, Prime conditioner that i use detoxifies it. The nitrates will still read on the test though.

Decision, decisions...
If you want to go the fish route, I have a feeling that since your tank is much bigger than the 14 gallon that I cycled with fish, your ammonia may not get as high during the cycle if you only add a few small fish. I did not remember ever having as high of ammonia when I cycled with fish before as I did with the 14 gallon. Won't get into details why it happened and bore you with it. I had already posted on it.

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Old 02-14-2010, 11:35 AM   #30
 
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Yeah, I thought I knew what I was going to do. Now it's crunch time and I'm like... huh?
I would add in Bio Spira but the lfs doesn't carry it. The guy there told me some other name of some stuff and said it was the same thing. And that the company changed the name. I think he was wrong. I remember reading that the stuff he mentioned was worthless, as most "live bacteria" in a bottle are. But Bio Spira is one that is truly a good product that works. Maybe they'll give me some seeded gravel or sponge squeezeings.
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