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Old 01-29-2013, 06:02 AM   #11
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Really looking great!

You can't beat the look of live plants... particularly when they are so beneficial. Glad you decided not to go with the Betta. They can work out but they often don't... having said that, I found mine sleeping on the bottom fins all curled up with one of the catfish the other night. If it wasn't so dark I'd have got a picture.

I seem to be addicted to plants, up to 12 species, I think. I've lost count of the plants but probably 60 individual plants now.... if you don't count the hundreds of duckweed plants.

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Old 01-29-2013, 06:14 AM   #12
 
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Really looking great!

You can't beat the look of live plants... particularly when they are so beneficial. Glad you decided not to go with the Betta. They can work out but they often don't... having said that, I found mine sleeping on the bottom fins all curled up with one of the catfish the other night. If it wasn't so dark I'd have got a picture.

I seem to be addicted to plants, up to 12 species, I think. I've lost count of the plants but probably 60 individual plants now.... if you don't count the hundreds of duckweed plants.

Jeff.
Thanks Jeff =) I'm a bit chuffed with the whole thing myself

Aww!! What a shame you couldn't get a piccy of your Betta! That would have been awesome to see lol

I think I"m going to stick with Platties and Catties for now, especially since the Platties are "up the duff" My little white girl is full to bursting I reckon and my pineapple/sunset one is not far behind... I can't really tell with the tuxedo twins... They look fat all the time..! And finally my blue girl isn't showing at all.. yet.. Hopefully some of the fry survive, so that'll be it for me for fish stock for a while.. lol Just need some surface plants for the littlies when they arrive...
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:17 AM   #13
 
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Thanks Jeff =) I'm a bit chuffed with the whole thing myself

Aww!! What a shame you couldn't get a piccy of your Betta! That would have been awesome to see lol

I think I"m going to stick with Platties and Catties for now, especially since the Platties are "up the duff" My little white girl is full to bursting I reckon and my pineapple/sunset one is not far behind... I can't really tell with the tuxedo twins... They look fat all the time..! And finally my blue girl isn't showing at all.. yet.. Hopefully some of the fry survive, so that'll be it for me for fish stock for a while.. lol Just need some surface plants for the littlies when they arrive...
looking good they defo get more plants and rid of fake one's lol
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Old 01-29-2013, 03:22 PM   #14
 
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Thank you thank you! Under advisement, I'm not going to get a betta fish anytime soon for the community tank. Better safe than sorry, I'd be too devastated if it didn't work!

I did a water change and gravel clean and tested all parameters this morning. The GH is now up to 10d and I'm pretty sure this is from the bits of shell grit that's in the substrate. PH is around 7.7 It took me about 2 hours today in my preferred LFS and much discussion, changing of minds, more discussion et cetera.. (lol) I ended up getting 6 goregous little Platies and 2 potted crypt plants I'll add a pic to my aquarium profile soon..

The little guys are settling in well so far, the most exciting part has been when they first swam through the bell! lol

Next up, bristle nosed catfish me thinks
Feeding the Platys protein based foods(which they need) can kill a veggie only Bristlenose if the BN eats enough leftover Platy food. A three week old tank is not stable enough to add multiple Plecos, they are a huge bio load.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:42 AM   #15
 
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Feeding the Platys protein based foods(which they need) can kill a veggie only Bristlenose if the BN eats enough leftover Platy food. A three week old tank is not stable enough to add multiple Plecos, they are a huge bio load.
Thanks Marshallsea That's why I've waited until now to get them.. My tanks been up and running for nearly 6 weeks now, it was cycled at 3 weeks which I think is awesome.. I'm keeping a close eye on everything and all parameters are very stable and where they should be. There's a post I made further along this thread that explains where my tank is at

As far as food goes, the Platies don't give the BN a chance to eat anything that doesn't sink immediately! They're more hooverish than the BN.. The only thing they really leave alone is cucumber.. lol

You said that protein based foods can kill the BN... Do you mean pure protein foods? Because the Hikari wafers I feed them have 33% protein and were recommended by my LFS and are apparently ideal for algae eaters...
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:00 AM   #16
 
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Thanks Marshallsea That's why I've waited until now to get them.. My tanks been up and running for nearly 6 weeks now, it was cycled at 3 weeks which I think is awesome.. I'm keeping a close eye on everything and all parameters are very stable and where they should be. There's a post I made further along this thread that explains where my tank is at

As far as food goes, the Platies don't give the BN a chance to eat anything that doesn't sink immediately! They're more hooverish than the BN.. The only thing they really leave alone is cucumber.. lol

You said that protein based foods can kill the BN... Do you mean pure protein foods? Because the Hikari wafers I feed them have 33% protein and were recommended by my LFS and are apparently ideal for algae eaters...
A Bristle noses diet can contain protein but not 33%. You have to feed them 100% veg matter. Confusion at the LFS can come from the fact that some Plecos eat protein, but not a BN. I had Platys and a BN and sadly I didn't know about the BN diet until it was too late. Feed your Platys just a bit at a time so there's no chance of their food hitting bottom, Platys love to eat so this is not hard to do. You can even feed the Platys 100% veg food several days a week and then protein food 2 days a week to protect your BN. Most BN fans who are dedicated to BN won't keep BN with any other fish for this reason and I won't do it again, it's agonizing. Get some 100% veg wafers and vary the BN diet with green veggies. Also male BNs get aggressive with each other with females around. You need to supply them with hiding spots and caves. P.S. BNs need driftwood in their diet to aid in digestion. The problem with wood in my tank was wood can lower your PH some. Not a problem with the BN, but in my tank with my water the wood really bothered the platys. I chased ghost problems for months until I pulled the wood out and the Platys stopped glancing instantly, another reason to keep BNs by themselves. I f you don't already have wood , get some and watch your Platys. You should research BN instead of taking advise from a LFS as their job is to sell you as many fish and stuff as they can, with the fish paying for it. There is a BN only forum called Bristlenose World. They can really help you with your BN.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:17 AM   #17
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A Bristle noses diet can contain protein but not 33%. You have to feed them 100% veg matter. Confusion at the LFS can come from the fact that some Plecos eat protein, but not a BN. I had Platys and a BN and sadly I didn't know about the BN diet until it was too late. Feed your Platys just a bit at a time so there's no chance of their food hitting bottom, Platys love to eat so this is not hard to do. You can even feed the Platys 100% veg food several days a week and then protein food 2 days a week to protect your BN. Most BN fans who are dedicated to BN won't keep BN with any other fish for this reason and I won't do it again, it's agonizing. Get some 100% veg wafers and vary the BN diet with green veggies. Also male BNs get aggressive with each other with females around. You need to supply them with hiding spots and caves. P.S. BNs need driftwood in their diet to aid in digestion. The problem with wood in my tank was wood can lower your PH some. Not a problem with the BN, but in my tank with my water the wood really bothered the platys. I chased ghost problems for months until I pulled the wood out and the Platys stopped glancing instantly, another reason to keep BNs by themselves. I f you don't already have wood , get some and watch your Platys. You should research BN instead of taking advise from a LFS as their job is to sell you as many fish and stuff as they can, with the fish paying for it. There is a BN only forum called Bristlenose World. They can really help you with your BN.
Boy... this is one of the many reasons I chose the bottom feeders that I did... same diet as the rest of the fish in the tank, although I had no idea that a fish could be so adversely affected by scavenging the wrong dietary ingredients. Surface, mid water and bottom feeders can all eat the same sinking pellets... they float for long enough, sink slow enough and get to the bottom. Everyone is happy.

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Old 01-30-2013, 11:48 AM   #18
 
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Bristlenose pleco's will be fine with weekly addition of vegetable matter and other food's as well.
They are largely Omnivore's but do appreciate their green's.
I, currently have six of these fish that produce babies during the fall when water temp get's a bit cooler and feed em same food's as other fishes including loaches,cory's.
New life spectrum,Omega one flakes,cichlid pellet's,carnivore pellet's,spirulina wafer's,krill,chopped earthworm's,tetra bit's,and once or twice a week zucchinni,romain lettuce,or fleshy side of bannana skin.
Would not be too worried about animal protein's that the Bristlenose might happen to scavenge, but would include the vegetable matter.
New life spectrum is hard to beat for Vegetable matter and fruit's that these fish like.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:52 AM   #19
 
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Boy... this is one of the many reasons I chose the bottom feeders that I did... same diet as the rest of the fish in the tank, although I had no idea that a fish could be so adversely affected by scavenging the wrong dietary ingredients. Surface, mid water and bottom feeders can all eat the same sinking pellets... they float for long enough, sink slow enough and get to the bottom. Everyone is happy.

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Yes, water requirements, temperment, diet and tank size must be juggled.
Too bad LFSs in general don't worry about this and just sell whatever they can.
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Old 01-30-2013, 11:55 AM   #20
 
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Boy... this is one of the many reasons I chose the bottom feeders that I did... same diet as the rest of the fish in the tank, although I had no idea that a fish could be so adversely affected by scavenging the wrong dietary ingredients. Surface, mid water and bottom feeders can all eat the same sinking pellets... they float for long enough, sink slow enough and get to the bottom. Everyone is happy.

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What bottom feeders do you have?
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