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post #1 of 23 Old 10-03-2009, 12:53 PM Thread Starter
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Hello all! I am new to the fish world.

Currently I have about 10 fish in a 36 G bowfront.

I have;
4 goldfish,
3 Ghouramis,
2 Placos,
3 Tetras,
and a bunch of babie guppies.

Now my questions,

1) When adding water plants, live ones, do the roots need to be completely buried? For example, I am using gravel right now and have the plants roots half buried or so.

2) Is it bad that the gold fish bite on the plants?

3) How is my fish setup? Anything wrong I should know about?

4) Am I using the right bedding for my plants?

5) Why are salt water fish so darn cute.
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post #2 of 23 Old 10-03-2009, 01:21 PM
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Hello and welcome to the forum.

I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you should not maintain goldfish with tropical fish like gouramis and tetras. The gouramis require warm water (78 and above) to be healthy, and while the goldfish may be able to tolerate it, it is not in their best interests long-term. And goldfish eat plants. Lupin is very knowledgeable on goldfish, so I'll leave it for him to offer further advice.

As for the plants, why are they only half rooted? Even with minimal gravel depth you should be able to push the roots into the gravel so they are covered, but not above the crown of the plant (the crown is the point from which the stems/leaves arise from the rootstock). A gravel depth of 2 inches minimum is recommended for planted aquaria. As larger plants (with more roots) tend to be around the sides and back of an aquarium, you can slope the gravel from about an inch at the front to 3 inches at the back, or uses wood/rock to make terraces at the back for deeper gravel.

Byron.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #3 of 23 Old 10-03-2009, 01:44 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the hasty reply! They are half rooted right now, I am going to buy more bedding tonight!

Should I continue to use gravel, or is there some kind of sand I can put in there?
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Thanks for the hasty reply! They are half rooted right now, I am going to buy more bedding tonight!

Should I continue to use gravel, or is there some kind of sand I can put in there?
In my opinion, based upon my personal experience and extensive research of planted aquaria authorities, small-grain gravel is the best. Just have enough. And if it is dark or natural colour, the plants (and fish) look better; I mention that in case you might want to change it before adding more, but I've no idea what you have now.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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Right now I have black gravel, and only 15 lbs of it.

I am going to add a different type today
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Right now I have black gravel, and only 15 lbs of it.

I am going to add a different type today
Black is excellent for plants and fish colours, and very natural because with few exceptions the fish we tend to keep in planted aquaria all come from habitats with dark substrates (mud, dark sand, leaves); there was someone, I think on this forum, who had photos a few weeks ago of his aquarium with black gravel and it was stunning. But its your aquarium. Small grain gravel (1-2 mm grain size is perfect, or 3 mm) works best with plant roots, and easier maintenance.

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post #7 of 23 Old 10-03-2009, 02:45 PM Thread Starter
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I might buy more black,

PETCO Black Aquarium Gravel at PETCO

That is the kind I bought. How does it look?
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Hello all! I am new to the fish world.

Currently I have about 10 fish in a 36 G bowfront.

I have;
4 goldfish,
3 Ghouramis,
2 Placos,
3 Tetras,
and a bunch of babie guppies.

Now my questions,

1) When adding water plants, live ones, do the roots need to be completely buried? For example, I am using gravel right now and have the plants roots half buried or so.

2) Is it bad that the gold fish bite on the plants?

3) How is my fish setup? Anything wrong I should know about?

4) Am I using the right bedding for my plants?

5) Why are salt water fish so darn cute.

2.) Yes is you want to keep your plants long term

3.)Fish Selection should be more thought through cold water fish and tropical fish dont work for numorous reasons

4.)gravel works fine and byron has already covered this

5.)no idea lol


dont mean to bring bad news but just tryin to point you in the right direction. Money
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post #9 of 23 Old 10-03-2009, 02:49 PM Thread Starter
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Im going to get rid of the goldfish tonight,

then I am going to add more gravel and re plant my plants, do a water change and possible add more tetras
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Im going to get rid of the goldfish tonight,

then I am going to add more gravel and re plant my plants, do a water change and possible add more tetras
Sounds good, you'll have a nice display aquarium. Good luck with all of it. Byron

Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
Vancouver, BC, Canada

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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