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post #31 of 55 Old 02-22-2009, 09:25 AM
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if you really and truely cared about fish you wouldn't keep them at all no matter how you slice it it's cruel to take a fish from a million gallon river and put it in any sized tank i mean i'm not out there to hurt fish i mean i bend over backwards to keep mine healthy with everything from live food to keeping a big plant for each fish but i try too keep fish keeping stress low and not sweating the small stuff is deffinately part of that

disagree. granted their natural habitat is larger, small fish never really leave the shallows. if you properly stock a tank with the correct number of fish and sizes, and properly maintain it there isnt an issue. fish in the wild NEVER see ammonia or nitrite or even high levels of nitrate that is why fishless cycling IMO is the best way to go and afterwards keeping up with routine maintnance water changes to keep levels down.
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disagree. granted their natural habitat is larger, small fish never really leave the shallows. if you properly stock a tank with the correct number of fish and sizes, and properly maintain it there isnt an issue. fish in the wild NEVER see ammonia or nitrite or even high levels of nitrate that is why fishless cycling IMO is the best way to go and afterwards keeping up with routine maintnance water changes to keep levels down.
Fish may not see high levels of nitrite, ammonia, nitrate but I disagree w/ the puddle thing, fish will not live in a 10g-200g little space in a huge river, stream, lake their entire lives.

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-1x Red Tailed Shark
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didnt say anything about puddles. what im talking about is the shallows. if you do things right the fish at home will prob. live longer then in the wild. no natural predators and no worry for food, im sure in some cases cleaner waters with todays pollution and so forth. i did say granted the places they come from are much larger but again if properly stocking a tank there shouldnt be worries.
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You guys are scaring me. I just set up my 37g after a 3 year break. My last run was with ciclids. Convicts, jewels, green terrors, and a red devil, till the red devil matured. Then it got ugly.
I used some dry bacteria to start the filter, ran that for a week, added some silver dollars and a corey. Today I returned the silvers dollars and bought 4 medium angelfish.
I haven't done a water change yet, plan on changing out 5g tomorrow. I am using an old aquaclear filter that is more than sufficient for the size of the tank with ammo chips and carbon. I am also running an under gravel filter with a power head. Everybody looks healthy so far. Very active and hungry. I'm gonna cut down on the feeding and check for ammonia, nitrates, and nitrites. Any suggestions? other than removing the angels?
hi Spoon and welcome :)
do you have any friends with a tropicl set up ?
you could ask them for a donation of media from their filter to put into yours.
test the water to keep a check on it as you will need to cycle the tank.
i've never heard about dry bacteria,however you do learn something new everyday.
the problem with most fish thees days is that they are over bred and weak.

when you set up a new tank,hide an extra
sponge or two behind some decor,that way you have
something seeded for you next filter.
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hi Spoon and welcome :)
do you have any friends with a tropicl set up ?
you could ask them for a donation of media from their filter to put into yours.
test the water to keep a check on it as you will need to cycle the tank.
i've never heard about dry bacteria,however you do learn something new everyday.
the problem with most fish thees days is that they are over bred and weak.
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That was the original plan, but then one of Dad's fish caught the ich. I was going to ask at the pet store but figured they would look at me like I was nuts so I went with this powdered bacteria starter.
We do have a set up at work with one of those double Whispers I can grab a filter bag from. I'm sure it hasn't been changed in a while. I also have a sponge from an Aquaclear 150 I can stick in their filter for a couple of days, then stick in my 300 under the larger sponge.
I have been changing the water every couple of hours but go back to work tomorrow so it will be down to two changes a day.
Thanks for the reply!
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That was the original plan, but then one of Dad's fish caught the ich. I was going to ask at the pet store but figured they would look at me like I was nuts so I went with this powdered bacteria starter.
We do have a set up at work with one of those double Whispers I can grab a filter bag from. I'm sure it hasn't been changed in a while. I also have a sponge from an Aquaclear 150 I can stick in their filter for a couple of days, then stick in my 300 under the larger sponge.
I have been changing the water every couple of hours but go back to work tomorrow so it will be down to two changes a day.
Thanks for the reply!
2 water changes/day is sufficient, 25% or so. Just don't take all the media from your office.

55 Gallon

-10x Zebra Danio
-3x Angelfish
-5x Velvet Red Swordtail
-3x Albino Cory Cat
-3x Clown Loach
-3x Black Mollie
-1x Red Tailed Shark
-1x General Pleco
-1x Snail

10 Gallon

Quarantine

37 Gallon (Wanted)

Not Sure

150 Gallon (Wanted)

-5x Bala Shark
-2x Neon Blue Goarami
-5x Clown Loach
-1x Black Knife Ghost
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2 water changes/day is sufficient, 25% or so. Just don't take all the media from your office.
Lol. It has two filter cartridges in the filter. I'll just change one out.
25% at a time? or over the corse of the day?
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post #38 of 55 Old 02-22-2009, 10:49 PM
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one fish 2 is completely wrong many fish experience not only high ammonia at times in the wild they also experience high acid levels for example south east asian streams in fall become very poluted by decaying leaves that is one o the reason anabantid fish have a labrinth

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Well, I have to side w/ OF2F on this issue. In the wild we are talking big rivers, streams, large bodys of water, etc and you know the old say, "The solution to pollution is dilution". When faced with high levels of ammonia or acid fish can just swim off in another direction. Out tanks are a very confined space and I feel pristine water quality is in order and should be maintained that way. JMHO...

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Lol. It has two filter cartridges in the filter. I'll just change one out.
25% at a time? or over the corse of the day?
25% each time, spread out though, atleast 6 hrs. separate.

55 Gallon

-10x Zebra Danio
-3x Angelfish
-5x Velvet Red Swordtail
-3x Albino Cory Cat
-3x Clown Loach
-3x Black Mollie
-1x Red Tailed Shark
-1x General Pleco
-1x Snail

10 Gallon

Quarantine

37 Gallon (Wanted)

Not Sure

150 Gallon (Wanted)

-5x Bala Shark
-2x Neon Blue Goarami
-5x Clown Loach
-1x Black Knife Ghost
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